We love Ferro cement but beware !

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by manta.bay, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. boat fan
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    He only has to insert the two words "To me" after " a lot more " Tom.....;)
     
  2. Submarine Tom

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    boat fan,

    Why are you speaking for someone else?
     
  3. boat fan
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    boat fan Senior Member

    I`m not.
    Why are you "nit picking?"
    His meaning was clear.
    Is this grammar school?
     
  4. Submarine Tom

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    Oh, okay then, why do go by "Brent Swain" and "boat fan"?

    I'm not "nit-picking". Yes, the sentence is grammatically terrible, but that wasn't my point. It's full of double speak, confusing and nonsensicle.
    His meaning was not clear to me. I had to read it several times and then guess at what he might have meant.

    Why are you making such a big deal out of it and why are you getting so defensive potentially high-jacking this thread?

    -Tom
     
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    it made sense to me too

    for some of us typing is an unnatural act
     
  6. MikeJohns
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    It's a nice sounding platitude but consider that good advice doesn't need to come from success.

    You can learn just as much from the experience of people who tried but failed.



    Back to ferro cement.........

    One concrete amunition lighter I surveyed had a hull that was close to 600mm thick and the bottom was pre-tensioned cables grouted into tunnels.
     
  7. boat fan
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    Yes , indeed Mike , ( often including oneself ) . NOT meaning you Mike !

    A pre - stressed hull...interesting . At 600 mm thickness ,it should have longevity to say the least ,if it was compacted / vibrated well.
    Assuming it was poured.
     
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    Brent,

    See my comment #13...I can see well where ferro built boats can be good.

    I personally wanted to buy a ferro barge from Pittwater once (1985 I think)...it had a brand new Gardner in it and was selling for less than the engine, so yes, there are bargains about.....but rare.....

    Brent, you seem to think that you are the only person on this site that has ever been cruising, I think you need to understand that some of us oldies here have been doing it for more years than you have even been here mate.
     
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    Can I ask Landlubber , what did you want to use it for , and how big was it ?
     
  10. Landlubber
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    Yeah sure.

    At the time, I was working at Woolwich Marina, shippy there. I was going to use it as a home. It was about 55 feet long, very wide, totally open inside, and would accomodate house furniture very easily.
    Berthing it would of course been easy.

    Funny story, but I was telling the boys at work about getting it at smoko, one of the fellas listening went off and bought it under my nose as I had to work till late....scumbags some people....such is life
     
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    Fair dinkum ! That would have made a great home. Pity....would have been
    easy to fit out with furniture ...:D through hulls another matter....diamond corers are expensive ! :D

    That kind of use would be best suited for ferro I think. And still worth thinking about actually. Just pour a big barge...
     
  12. Landlubber
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    The Dutch barge design is well proven to be quite "seaworthy" (for its intended purpose anyhow).

    Have a look at some of the Pommy riverboats too, but they are often very narrow...sort of suits their personality eh!
     
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    Yeah ...British narrow boats ...I find them a tad claustrophobic ...anything under 9 ft wide I find too narrow ..they had to be because of some of those canals are REALLY narrow....but Dutch barges ....yes , nice.

    I wonder if you could pour a dutch barge type hull with mesh and rebar ( thicker type hull ) without that tedious armature ....? Shotcrete maybe. With epoxy coating.
     
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    I seem to remember that Bob and Nancy Griffiths did just what Brent suggests except the other way around,they lost their 53ft wooden Awhanee on a reef in the Pacific (ferro boats arnt the only ones to get smashed to bits on reefs),salvaged everything they could,shipped it to New Zealand and built a Ferro sistership outfitting it with all the salvaged equipment and continued cruising,including a circumnavigation of the world by way of Antarctica,sure makes all the naysaying theorists on this thread seem like sissies.
    Steve.
     

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    Don`t think so , Steve.

    Gross blanketing statement .Means nothing.

    Oscar Speck took a fold up canvas kayak from Germany to Australia in 1932. Arrived 7 years later. Does not mean most would recommend it.
    Most prudent people would advise against it. Does that make them " sissie naysayers " ? ..... Hardly.
    In comparison to Mr Speck`s feat ,does it mean Bob and Nancy Griffiths " seem like sissies " ? ..... Hardly.
    Would they advise against doing what he did ? Most likely , yes. Would that make them " sissie naysayers " ?
     
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