Vote: best brand of inboard propulsion engine...

Discussion in 'Diesel Engines' started by B33RND, Aug 27, 2009.

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What do you consider as the best propulsion engine within 130-160 kW range? Vote!

  1. John Deere

    31 vote(s)
    39.2%
  2. Iveco

    7 vote(s)
    8.9%
  3. Deutz

    7 vote(s)
    8.9%
  4. Volvo Penta

    12 vote(s)
    15.2%
  5. Yanmar

    23 vote(s)
    29.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. scotch&water
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    scotch&water Junior Member

    THe engine you are looking for is the 3.9 Cummins hp 100 t0 150 old mech. pump lots of them out ther rebuild and new, is 4 cyl from the older 12 valve 5.9 so lots of parts.
     
  2. michael pierzga
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    michael pierzga Senior Member

    Huh ????? Ive got a Cummins diesel with 10,000 hours of seawater,hard marine use. . Indestructible. Marine diesel engines suffer from poor ownership...not poor design.
     
  3. mark775

    mark775 Guest

    He's saying they make a sport version, Michael, which extracts too much HP. Yes, Cummins are good engines. I don't want to get into this too much without reading all the posts but JD doesn't yet have the infrastructure to be a good alternative, IMO. I had a friend that bought one from Cascade, in Seattle. He then said he needed a front pulley group for a hydraulic pump or washdown, and they said "Huh?" That would never happen with Cat, Volvo, Cummins, etc.. It's already been done with them, with a part number and a location of the nearest unit - ("It'll be at your boat on Monday")
     
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  4. michael pierzga
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    michael pierzga Senior Member

    Whats interesting is that the original poster didn't list Cat.....MTU or Cummins... all quality marine grade engines.

    As for John Deer, people always speak highly of the engines. Im not
    familiar with the marinization of John Deer. When talking service, its almost always the components like heat exchangers, exhaust and pumps on any engine that needs the most service per hour run .
     
  5. Pirate68
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    Pirate68 New Member

    Detroit rulz

    Cheap parts
    easy fitting
    basic design
    great sound
     
  6. SeaJay
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    SeaJay Senior Member

    Quatsino - take a look at the Beta engines (Kubotas). The 75 is naturally aspirated and the 90 used to be but I think they had to add a turbo to meet air quality issues and it is now 105.

    http://www.betamarinenc.com/bv3300.htm
     
  7. FAST FRED
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    FAST FRED Senior Member

    For folks that can not see that much difference between brand A and brand B diesel, I suggest you go to the parts source and price common items.

    Water pump, cylinder head , re build kit.

    Some will be 500% more than others.

    FF
     
  8. SPARK1
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    SPARK1 Junior Member

    I see that John Deere is winning the pole. Which JD engine and why?
    I presume it will be 6068 but which version?
     
  9. FAST FRED
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    FAST FRED Senior Member

    Many folks like Deere because the engines can be obtained at the JD farm store , instead of the "JD marine folks" at very good prices.

    At least 2x a year the farm folks will offer factory warenteed rebuilt , with NO core required !!!


    This is a fantastic deal .

    Keel cooled , dry stack requires no "marine" conversion , just a used TD to be underway at 1/3 the cost of the"marine" guys.

    Aftermarket wet exhaust manifolds are avialable if needed for a yachtty wet exhaust.

    FF
     
  10. Dean Smith

    Dean Smith Previous Member

    can you add Cummins to this poll, By far the biggest independent eng manufacturer and by the way you left out Cat MWM Man and a whole raft of real engines that are not hand grenade rated:)
     
  11. Dean Smith

    Dean Smith Previous Member

    yes I like Deere too, but their install dwgs are woeful and they have tractor eng mt positions low on bloc which lifts the engine so high makes it a ******* to fit under e/r sole
     
  12. whitepointer23

    whitepointer23 Previous Member

    have a look at gardner, parts are still available, no make of engine can match them for quality and fuel economy. they were so good they put themselves out of business. the only parts ever required are filters. a trawler i used to go out on ran a 6 cyl gardner for 48 years before it was rebuilt. 60,000 hours plus is not uncommon.
     
  13. Dean Smith

    Dean Smith Previous Member

    My dear Boy
    I was working on Gardeners before you were a gleam in your Dads eye
    they are Passe. old hat , power to weight abysmal
    So long Lister, Lister Blackstone, Kelvin, Ruston, Gleniffer, all great in their day
    modern day engines are better, stronger and more efficient
     
  14. bernd1972
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    bernd1972 Holzwurm

    I would suggest Perkins which is the same as the small Cats.
     

  15. Icebreaker
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    Icebreaker Junior Member

    Because the poll limited the order of preference _ I would have chosen John Deere reluctantly.
    Otherwise # Gardenor
    # Isuzu
    NON turbos good output at around -2,000 RPM
     
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