Vote: best brand of inboard propulsion engine...

Discussion in 'Diesel Engines' started by B33RND, Aug 27, 2009.

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What do you consider as the best propulsion engine within 130-160 kW range? Vote!

  1. John Deere

    31 vote(s)
    39.2%
  2. Iveco

    7 vote(s)
    8.9%
  3. Deutz

    7 vote(s)
    8.9%
  4. Volvo Penta

    12 vote(s)
    15.2%
  5. Yanmar

    23 vote(s)
    29.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. powerabout
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    powerabout Senior Member

    That would be great news for the Cruise Ship industry...but they get hammered with rules.
     
  2. GAZZABO
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    GAZZABO Junior Member

    Dont know all you guys but I have just bought an old (1958 ) fihing boat from BLuff the bottom of NZ and a few weeks ago motored it upo to Whangarei 1000nm. 6.65lt/hr at 5.89kts not a hiccup! smooth runniig at 1500rpm and i suppose you all want to know what the 1985 motor was?

    ISUZU 6BD1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Complete new head $nz665 Short block $nz 4500 and Im a LISTERMAN!
     
  3. BTPost
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    BTPost Junior Member

    The US EPA has the LAWS that the Cruise Ships get Hammered by... They are called "The Clean Air Act", and "The Clean Water Act"..... both are Federal Statutes, NOT State Statutes....
     
  4. sabahcat
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    sabahcat Senior Member

    Yep
    My cummins B3.3 are tier II compliant

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  5. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    MEDIUM speed was the question Sabah! Yours is a high speed engine (very high)................
     
  6. sabahcat
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    sabahcat Senior Member

    Que?

    cummins B3.3
    2600rpm max with peak torque at 1600rpm

    spins a hell of a lot slower than a yanmar 75 (nearest size hp)
    3800 max with peak torque at 3000 rpm
     
  7. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    We live in a Maritime professional world Sabah!

    Slow revving marine Diesel is something around 100 - 150 rpm
    Medium is around 500 - 800 rpm
    all above is high speed.............

    The long living range high speed Marine Diesels turn at 1800 rpm max. all above is known as "handgrenade setting" and good for the average weekend (two weekends in fact) cruisers with the average 80 hrs p.A.

    Regards
    Richard
     
  8. Landlubber
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    Landlubber Senior Member

    ...'fraid Apex is correct fellas......
     
  9. sabahcat
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    sabahcat Senior Member

    Show me some of these diesels that spin at 100 to 800rpm and then show me how you can fit them in a boat of 50ft and especially a catamaran hull?

    I always thought Gardners were about as good as it got for longevity and the last one I had anything to do with spun at 1500rpm (cruised at 1100), but could not fit in a 50ft catamaran hull

    I bought the cummins because I needed small long life engines that can fit in a catamaran hull.
    They were not the lightest, but they did have the best rep for longevity of an engine of that size and weight, partly I believe because of their low revs in comparison to other engines in that size.
    They certainly last longer than 2 weekends and I know of many that have had about 10 years of commercial use with little issue, which, is a direct contradiction to your "Hand Grenade" claim
     
  10. apex1

    apex1 Guest


    Nonsense, such engine does not exist.

    But that makes the definition not wrong!

    The Gardners are just ONE of the many makes in the upper med. speed range but of course don´t fit in a catamaran of that size (and are not suitable for lightweight craft anyway.

    The claim that your engine type survived for years in commercial service is a lie. Never these engines stand daily use for extended time. (and they are not designed to)

    I did not say they live two weekends only, I meant they are hardly used more than that. (average is 80 hrs p.a.)

    Regards
    Richard

    Lubs,

    why are you afraid when i´m right?
     
  11. sabahcat
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    sabahcat Senior Member

    You said it did earlier, see
    Thats why I dint get them and settled for the smaller, more suitable cummins
    There was nothing else in its size (HP and torque), price and weight range that spun as slow and appeared to have as good longevity

    A lie eh?

    Best you tell that to the thousands of bobcat,excavator-loader, mining generators, marine generator owners out there using these engines in commercial applications giving them a continually hard life year after year after year after year

    I think they would disagree with you

    Who's telling lies now?

     
  12. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    YOU!

    And you are turning nasty Mate!!!


    1
    There is no slow turning engine that fits in your cat! that was the statement....
    and it remains valid.
    2of course.......
    we are talking marine propulsion here, not excavators!
    And in commercial marine propulsion such engine is hardly found, they still don´t survive it.


    What are you trying to prove? That you are a good politician? It is not too hard to misunderstand every comment if one tries long enough.............
     
  13. TeddyDiver
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  14. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    I'd be really leery of that thing

    India is not exactly known for high quality fabrication same as China

    seems that If I'm staking me life on something it should have a long reputation of reliability and service as well as have readily available parts

    Deere or Cummins would fit that bill well but I'm not so sure about that last

    although I thought the hand crank start was kinda cute
     

  15. TeddyDiver
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    TeddyDiver Gollywobbler

    It's the best quality money can buy.. thou a couple of odd features compared to more modern ones.. Model has been the same last >50yrs, 2cyl 2.4ltr 285kg 25hp..
     
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