Very new to boatbuilding, have some questions!

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  1. Joey Bergeron
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    Joey Bergeron Junior Member

    Hi!

    I'm (very, very) new to boatbuilding. Meaning I've only bought a book about it that I didn't receive yet. The closer I got to boatbuilding is making searches on internet about it. I had this idea to build a Viking faering with a sail/a big canoe with a sail.

    I'd like it to be between 5 and 10 meters (the closer to 10 meters the better) and a bit wider than usual canoe. I have an access to approx. 500 ha of forest. Those forests contain mainly maple trees, but also a little bit of fir trees and white cedar. Maybe some oak trees or other type that I don't really know. I could also have access to eastern pine (don't know what's the name of this type of pine)

    I'd like to know, how hard would a project like this would be assuming I am a total newbie at this and I've never really made any manual thing, BUT I'm a quick learner and could have some help from a guy that can literally build anything with its hands. Is it something that could be possible? And what could be the quantity of wood needed?

    I also know that maple wood is generally a bad idea in boatbuilding due to its low-resistence to rot and low solidity, but since I have a sh*t ton of it, I'd like to know if I could do anything with it that could be useful, like the mast?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    hoytedow Wood Butcher

    Bienvenue.
    I would start by watching this and moving on to other methods.
     
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    hoytedow Wood Butcher

    Fun video.
     
  4. Joey Bergeron
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    I'll watch this tonight, thanks!
    And what do you mean by "moving on to others methods"?

    Do you mean doing what he does but with other methods?
     
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    Welcome to the Forum Joey.

    What are you planning on doing with your faering, once you have built her?
    And if it is close to 10 metres, that is a BIG boat, relatively, especially for a first time builder.

    Have a look at these faerings designed by Iain Oughtred - he sells plans for them.
    A traditional faering is built from lapstrake / clinker construction using planks; for your first building project you might be better off building a simpler 'stitch & glue' plywood boat?
    Oughtred Boats : plans kits building sailing rigging & lots of boat stuff : Iain Oughtred Designs http://straydogboatworks.com/oughtred/mainpages/norwegianhardangerfaering.html
     
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    By other methods I mean more modern methods and materials.
     
  7. Joey Bergeron
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    I really LOVE that small boat! Indeed, it could be more intelligent to begin with something smaller! And I plan to just go on the St-Lawrence River to take it easy when I do not work ;)

    Do you know how much time it would approx. take in order to build that boat from scratch? (If I need plywood, I'll buy it and won't lumber it down like I'd love to do for a bigger project!) and how much could it cost? (I'm a total newbie ahaha)

    thanks a lot!! :)
     
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    Stitch and glue is a fine method.
     
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    I am assuming that you mean the smallest version called Elf?
    They mention that she will take 200 hours to build - but I think you could easily add on a fair bit more time to this if you have never built a boat before.

    Re the cost of building her, they mention that a basic kit costs $2,256 - I am assuming that this is Australian dollars.
    The materials cost should be a fair bit less if you just buy the plans and cut out all the wood yourself.
     
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    That does not include plans, only supplies. Modifications from the original build added slightly to the original cost(steering, cables etc.).
     
  12. Joey Bergeron
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    I really like this idea! The Elf looks great and would be a great introduction to this world before I try to do something bigger!

    But do you think that I should really start with a stitch and glue plywood boat? Cause I made somme researches about that method and it looks a lot easier to do, but I wonder if it's worth it to do so since it's going to cost money and time.
     
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    I love it! But "only" 2k for a nice boat like that and 2.2k for the one that bajansailor sent? How come?
     
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    I think that Iain Oughtred's kit is probably just for the wooden parts alone; Hoyte's materials list is for the cost of all the materials that he had to buy.
    Hoyte's labour was free; with Iain's kit you are paying somebody to cut out the kit for you.
     

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    Plus I designed it myself so no plan fees.
     
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