Vendee Globe 2012

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  1. Doug Lord
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    Sharpii, as far as I know there is not a single CBTF equipped Open 60-have you seen something I missed?
    I think it was two years ago when the Class association ruled that DSS was legal for an Open 60, but because of all the talk of taking the class one design after this race nobody(as far as I know) has tried it.
    This class has been the first monohull keelboat to use lifting foils like those used in the ORMA tris and other innovations. But if they go one design, like the Volvo, all that potential development is lost. Once the Open 60's go-there is no racing development class for keelboats except the Mini Protos.
     
  2. michael pierzga
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    Prop visible
     

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  4. sharpii2
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    My guess is this fitting is a waterspout. If the boom droops aft, that is the perfect place for it. The sails can be used to collect fresh water during rains.
     
  5. michael pierzga
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    Hmm.... sounds like a good idea. Fresh water is energy intensive to make. Normally you collect it near the gooseneck.

    Possible the fitting is for some kinda video camera. Video is critical for sponsors.
     
  6. Doug Lord
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    From Scuttlebutt Europe:

    Three Favourites?

    It is a very special formula which delivers outright victory in the Vendee Globe, the solo non stop around the world race which starts this Saturday 10th November at 1302hrs local time from Les Sables d'Olonne in France's Vendee region on the Atlantic coast.

    The seventh edition of the race is perhaps one of the most open yet. Given the range of variables which come into play over the 24048 miles course predicting a possible winner is never easy, not least considering that over past six editions 49% of the starters have been forced to retire.

    The economic climate which has prevailed since the 2008-9 edition has perhaps reduced the possible fleet size but in many respects it has also polarised the overall calibre and professionalism of the entries. Even so there are still a number of skippers for whom simply finishing back into Les Sables d'Olonne in Feburary next year will represent success in itself.

    On paper if half of the skippers who are entered are equipped with the skills, experience and boats capable of winning this Vendee Globe there are probably three soloists who stand out as favourites. Armel Le Cleac'h sailed a smart, well modulated race to finish second in the last edition with a boat which was not the quickest in the fleet. He returns with a new generation design Banque Populaire. Vincent Riou (PRB) is the only skipper to have won the race before, triumphing in the 2004-5 race.

    Both are equally open in their ambition to win, whilst Jean-Pierre Dick (Virbac-Paprec 3), twice winner of the two-handed Barcelona World Race, is slightly more discrete in revealing his ambition, to make the transition to solo success.

    All three sailors have well funded, long term programmes with well optimised latest design generation boats and all have accumulated the racing and training miles which should ensure a measure of reliability.

    Then there are those who are focused more on finishing, letting the result arrive for itself. Kito de Pavant on Groupe Bel has said his primary goal is to get back to finish in Les Sables d'Olonne after having to retire within the first 48 hours of the last race and retiring from the last Barcelona World Race at Cape Horn with keel damage. Briton Sam Davies finished fourth in the last edition and became a global sailing star. She has an older 2004 design.

    Spain's Javier 'Bubi' Sanso returns to the Vendee Globe after a 10 years absence but with the newest design, Acciona 100% Eco Powered. This edition also sees the return of Bertrand de Broc (Your Name Around the World EDM Projects). And Switzerland's Dominque Wavre (Mirabaud) completes the list of contenders at 57 years old with seven round the world races to his credit.


    vendeeglobe.com
     
  7. Doug Lord
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    From Scuttlebutt tonight:

    FIGHTING WORDS

    Of the twenty skippers that will take the start of the Vendee Globe solo
    round the world race on Saturday in Les Sables-d'Olonne, France, Brit Alex
    Thomson fired the first shot across the boughs of his French rivals by
    saying he doubts the favourites in the new generation of Open 60 boats will
    make it around the world.

    He is not the only one talking about whether the new lighter, Verdier VPLP
    designed French boats (Banque Populaire 3, Macif, PRB, Virbac-Paprec 3) and
    Juan Kouyoumdjian's powerboat, Cheminees Poujoulat, will finish, but most
    are whispering it beside the pontoon.

    Vincent Riou has already ruffled Arnaud Boissieres feathers by saying that
    the Farr designed boats are "like chewing gum" - Boissieres bought Riou's
    old 2008 Farr-designed PRB.

    Thomson (who is also in a Farr-designed Hugo Boss) lobs this particular
    grenade from inside the spartan carbon shell that he hopes will be his home
    for three months. He is sitting in the small mission control station that
    will keep him updated with weather and in contact with the outside world
    and he keeps pulling the pins and no punches as the interview goes on.

    "I just don't see most of them getting round the world," he says. "I think
    we'll see an attrition rate again of at least 50%."

    Boom!

    Although there is plenty of pressure on Thomson to finish a solo around the
    world race for the first time, he is feeling more confident in his
    preparation than ever and it shows.

    "This is a confidence game and how confident are these guy really in their
    boats?" He asks? It's a rhetorical question. "I know a lot of people who
    don't believe in their boats. From the last Vendee Globe, the rule (change)
    made one advantage and that was to be light and being light doesn't make
    you more reliable; it does the opposite.

    "You've only got to go back and see some of the problems these guys have
    had. Yes, they've finished some races, but not without assistance and
    people in the teams...everybody is pretty nervous about it."
    -- Read on:
    http://tinyurl.com/VD-110612
     
  8. SpiritWolf15x
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    It's probably a small diesel that they can also use as a generator.
     
  9. capt vimes
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    she sure has a sort of propulsion system on board...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT0E0ri7JR4

    isn't it a requirement?
    most probably in her case the motor might be electric what with no drop of fossil fuel on board...
     
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  10. Doug Lord
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    Vendee-Start!

    From SA front page:

    The Vendee Globe around the world fleet sails away from Les Sables, but not without some early damage. Betrand De Broc had to return due to a small hole in the hull of his boat, after a collision with one of his rigid inflatable support boats 25 minutes before the start. He will be re-starting soon. The more significant report comes from early race leader Marc Guillemot onboard Safran, who had to turn around and head back to Les Sables after hearing a loud "bang". Cause and effect are not fully known at this point.
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    UPDATE from Scuttlebutt tonight 11/13/12:

    PENTHOUSE TO THE OUTHOUSE

    When the keel on Marc Guillemot's Safran snapped after only 50 nm of the
    Vendee Globe, his descent from the penthouse to the outhouse may be
    unmatched.

    Initially, he said he'd had a collision with a submerged object. Then later
    at a press conference he said he wasn't so sure. "I still don't know at
    this time if I hit something or not. If it was not a collision it might be
    a case of metal fatigue," Guillemot commented.

    In terms of the race it makes no odds. But for him and his team there could
    be a big difference. One is a probably a straightforward insurance pay-out
    under the terms of 'force majeure'; the other is wear and tear, and may be
    a harder thing for which to claim.

    I really do feel sorry for Guillemot. He's gone from the very possible
    prospect of a race win or podium position to the probability of an
    insurance wrangle and possible money worries (teams are often on a sliding
    scale of payment with more for finishing, more again for winning, plus
    prizemoney).

    And then there's the arrest warrant out for him in the UK for not turning
    up to a prosecution by the Maritime & Coastguard Agency, all those
    expensive laywers' fees and the likelihood that when he does face trial
    he'll cop a whopping big fine plus costs.

    Guillemot faced prosecution for ignoring ship traffic separation schemes
    through the Dover Strait during an attempt to break the Round Britain
    record in June. The warrant was issued in October after he failed to turn
    up in court to face charges in the UK.


    Elaine Bunting, Yachting World, full report:
    http://www.yachtingworld.com/news/533055/vend-e-globe-cruel-luck

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    Race website: http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/

    Race Tracking: http://tracking2012.vendeeglobe.org/en/

    Picture-Vendee start Christophe Launay credit:

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  11. Tad
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    Cause is the titanium keel strut snapped off just below the hull....

    Effect is no more ballast....
     
  12. Doug Lord
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    Vendee-Collision!

    Groupe Bel out with damage from collision with fishing boat-nobody hurt as best I can tell. A little more here: http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/news/newswire/2957/kito-is-in-cascais.html Vendee thread on SA: http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=132017&st=0
    --From Scuttlebutt tonight-

    CURSED AGAIN

    (November 12, 2012; Day 3) - "I am cursed. The Vendee Globe is not for me."
    That was the conclusion of the bitterly disappointed Kito de Pavant this
    Monday afternoon, despairing at the harsh reality that his challenge to
    complete the Vendee Globe is, again, very prematurely over. For the second
    successive edition of the race, De Pavant is forced to withdraw.

    His Groupe Bel suffered serious damage when he was hit by a fishing trawler
    whilst racing in 11th place, around 45 miles off the Portuguese coast about
    75 miles NW of Cascais at around 1000hrs CET this morning.

    De Pavant described it as a 'stupid accident' grabbing some minutes of
    sleep when he was awoken by a bang. With damage to Groupe Bel's outrigger -
    the deck spreader which supports the rig - losing his bowsprit and
    sustaining a hole in the hull and deck he announced his retirement this
    afternoon. De Pavant's withdrawal follows the retirement of Marc Guillemot
    (FRA), whose keel broke off only 50 miles into the race.

    The Groupe Bel skipper's second attempt at the Vendee Globe effectively
    ended a little more than 68 hours after the start, a cruel reprise after he
    lost his mast within 24 hours of the start of the 2008-9 race. He is unhurt
    and arrived today in Cascais by early evening.

    "All of that energy spent over months and years to prepare, all this is
    terrible. There is no bowsprit, there is a hole in the front of the hull
    but the boat itself is safe. To leave the Vendee Globe again, after just
    two days of racing, is not even possible, not even possible," responded De
    Pavant.

    For the top ten, already spread out by a hundred miles, the early gains
    appear to be inshore along the Portuguese coast. But light winds are ahead,
    and the next test will be whether leader François Gabart (FRA), who is
    nearing the Strait of Gibraltar latitude, can defend against the offshore
    position Vincent Riou (FRA) took today.
    Tracking: http://tracking2012.vendeeglobe.org/en/

    Top 5 of 20 - Rankings as of Monday 12 November 2012, 20h00 (FR)
    1. François Gabart (FRA), Macif: 23260.4 nm Distance to Finish
    2. Armel Le Cleac'h (CHE), Banque Populaire: 14.5 nm Distance to Lead
    3. Bernard Stamm (FRA), Cheminees Poujoulat: 24.2 nm DTL
    4. Vincent Riou (FRA), PRB: 26.1 nm DTL
    5. Jean-Pierre Dick (FRA), Virbac Paprec 3: 36.9 nm DTL
    Full rankings: http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/ranking.html



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    I'm rooting for Virbac....


    BOAT NAME
    Skipper name Ranking change Latitude
    Longitude Distance to leader
    Distance to finish Course VMG
    over one hour

    1 MACIF
    François Gabart 34° 45'28'' N
    15° 44'29'' O 0.0 nm
    23083.3 nm 252 ° 11.7 nds
    6.5 nds

    2 Cheminées Poujoulat
    Bernard Stamm 35° 29'38'' N
    16° 1'6'' O 38.9 nm
    23122.2 nm 263 ° 8.1 nds
    2.9 nds

    3 Banque Populaire
    Armel Le Cléac´h 36° 4'28'' N
    16° 46'59'' O 63.3 nm
    23146.6 nm 285 ° 5.7 nds
    -0.2 nds

    4 SynerCiel
    Jean Le Cam +2 35° 40'8'' N
    14° 3'7'' O 76.7 nm
    23159.9 nm 242 ° 8.3 nds
    5.9 nds

    5 Gamesa
    Mike Golding -1 35° 50'33'' N
    14° 42'54'' O 76.7 nm
    23160.0 nm 252 ° 9.2 nds
    5.2 nds

    6 Virbac Paprec 3
    Jean-Pierre Dick -1 36° 40'49'' N
    16° 21'24'' O 103.5 nm
    23186.8 nm 280 ° 4.2 nds
    0.3 nds

    7 AKENA Vérandas
    Arnaud Boissières +2 36° 18'56'' N
    14° 16'35'' O 110.2 nm
    23193.4 nm 246 ° 8.5 nds
    5.5 nds

    8 HUGO BOSS
    Alex Thomson -1 36° 55'17'' N
    16° 0'24'' O 121.8 nm
    23205.0 nm 247 ° 1.5 nds
    0.9 nds

    9 Maître CoQ
    Jérémie Beyou -1 37° 0'3'' N
    15° 54'47'' O 127.5 nm
    23210.8 nm 295 ° 3.2 nds
    -0.6 nds

    10 PRB
    Vincent Riou 37° 21'4'' N
    16° 36'27'' O 139.7 nm
    23223.0 nm 271 ° 2.1 nds
    0.4 nds
     

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  14. Doug Lord
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    I believe this was on Virbac 2. Its a movable trim surface:

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    with bureau vallee we have now the 2nd collision with a fishing trawler in 4 days (2 days from the last incident)...
    how sad... :(
     
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