Using tick sticks to scribe odd shaped areas

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  1. Landlubber
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    Yeah, horses for courses I guess.
     
  2. michael pierzga
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    Joggle stick... staple , hot glue and ply templates are both good and need to be in you tool box of tricks

    . When building a boat you cant just use one screw driver, one drill bit , one style wood joint and you cant just use one method for taking off shapes.

    The hot glue, staples and ply stick templates are the best way to take off shapes that have many details in the finished piece.... like bolt holes, wire run cut outs, inset hatches......

    Remember to label your template so that you use it on the correct side of the product piece or you will learn an expensive lesson.

    And get a hot glue gun for boat building . Very useful .

    The brown paper and hot glue trick is valuable for temporarily locating a piece during dry assembly. The brown paper breaks the joint for disassembly and the hot glue residue is easy to scape off with a sharp tool.
     
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    Thanks for the reminder - this 'tool' can make a 'challenge' a lot more fun.
    Tick strip, joggle stick,.... they go by a number a names. The builder I worked with had a couple of 'Christmas Trees' (one of wood, one of aluminum)and I later made a small one (24") when I had to lift a template off a small (7') hull with complicated features.
    I have attached a sketch (I hope) showing how to make and use. When marking the 'jig' use the holes & notches. When transfering to the part, align a hole then rotate the 'tree' to align the notches.
     

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    "Remember to label your template so that you use it on the correct side of the product piece or you will learn an expensive lesson."......nah, no one would be that silly?????

    note to myself......(better go crawl under a rock about now)
     
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  5. pdwiley
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    Umm, that's *why* I use the plywood strip template approach. If I can't get the template out, I'm not going to get the panel in. I was doing exactly this today to make the frame 5 bulkhead.

    Fastest way I've found of tacking the strips together is an air powered staple gun.

    PDW
     
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    In my much younger days I learned this lesson on a friends very expensive roll of flooring for his kitchen.
    Man, nothing like going from hotshot to a**hole in one painful realization.:confused:
     
  7. michael pierzga
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    Normally top and bottom are intuitive because of the template formation. , The confusion comes when you transfer the crude stick template to a second plywood template for precision fitting. This ply template is now flat on both sides.

    I also toasted a very expensive piece of teak flooring with 8 coats of varnish on it.
     
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    ....ooooops..... sorry about that fellas.

    Guess I am not the only donkey on board eh.
     
  9. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    No you're not the only person to make two right hand pieces, for parts that's suppose to be mirroring each other.
     
  10. hoytedow
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    Nope. To that I can attest. ;)
     
  11. afteryou
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    Nothin' worse than having to cut your template and new part in half to get them in and out of a small space. Many times I have awaited the moment of truth :D I have used tick sticks, but I find the plywood strip template and a spieling block a lot more versatile and a lot less confusing when there is a lot of detail.:)
     
  12. afteryou
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    I think the tick stick must have been invented before hot glue came to be ..:D..
     
  13. troy2000
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    Nope. Not included with my plans, Paul...:)

    I checked one of the copies I had made at my blueprint service, then I dug out the originals and checked them too -- just to be sure. There's all sorts of wonderful stuff in there, from how to filet a joint to drawings for spoke wheels (both six and eight spokes), but the joggle stick page isn't in the package.
     
  14. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    No kidding. It a page that is sent with all plans, I can't understand how it was missed. I
    just checked the contents page, sent with your plans and sure enough it's not there. Cool,
    now I have another reason to ask the other half to spank me.
     

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    My worst bungle ever was the time I built two large hatches for a sport fisherman that was to leave for the Bahamas 24 hours after I fitted the hatches. Confusing the hinge direction (I thought they opened port and starboard not forward) I installed the teak planking in the wrong direction. I managed to get the hatches away from the boat before the owner turned up and told him they needed adjustment. Starting at about two in the afternoon I was in the shop frantic all night and managed to install them successfully the following day around noon. I waved goodbye to a happy customer and went home to sleep a straight twelve. You just can't put too much info on your patterns. Pay attention dummy.
     
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