Uplifting and Helpful Quotes

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    "I would if I could, but I can't: so I won't. Please forgive me that I don't." -- Super Grover
     
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    Seems he knew a few politicians in his day. ;)
     
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    "This one is on me."

    Said to be on the tombstone of a guy notorious for borrowing booze money.
     
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    this is my favorite
     

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    The Danish definite of wart/nipple?
     
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    When you're up to your ears in mud & crocodiles, you should recall that the first job on your list was to drain the swamp.

    I am not arguing. I am just explaining to you why I am right.

    There are two ways to do things; there's my way & there's the wrong way.

    As a last resort, read the instructions.

    When you're in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.

    I am not insulting you. I am describing you.

    Finally, a parting shot, shouted from a safe distance.

    May your ear'oles turn to rsoles; may you $hit all over your collar.
     
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    It's a lot easier to build a wall'o'text than a bridge to wisdom.

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    Rurudyne

    Did you think I was being serious? In which case, consider this.

    In the first century AD there were two Jewish teachers. One was Rabbi Hillel & the other Yeshua Ben Yosef. The story is told that a non-Jew came to Hillel & asked him to teach him the whole Torah. Lillel replied "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour. This is the whole Torah; all the rest is commentary. Go and learn it."

    When Yeshua was asked the same question, he might have replied * "In everything, do to others as you would have them do to you; for this is the Law and the Prophets." Over the centuries, many people have compared the two statements. Are they the same, or is there a significant distinction to be made?

    From a logical point of view, the two statements are not the same. Hillel's statement can be rephrased to read, "Do not do to others as you would not have them do to you." In other words, each statement is the converse of the other. In practical effect, however, the two statements are virtually identical.


    * There are many translations of the New Testament. Here is the King James version. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the Law and the Prophets."

    On balance, I much prefer not to be serious. Conundrums I can do without. I'm not here for a long time, so I want to be here for a good time. :D

    All the best,

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    Actually, I figured you were throwing out "Uplifting and Helpful Quotes" ... and humorous ... and had something relevant to one of them.

    My own motto as a writer also works well for this purpose: The last edit you do is one edit too few.

    Also, about where you were being serious, I could point you to what Lewis wrote the the Abolition of Man when he was referring to, borrowing a term to mean the way, the Tao of Man for concurrence with what you wrote. The two statements are similar but not the same because one goes further. Some might think it goes too far and is a superfluity while perchance others might think it doesn't go far enough in demanding a more proactive role for the community (or as I've sometimes observed: in the Law the Israelites were commended to certain ethical behaviors in how they reaped and gleaned their harvest but no where did Moses establish a Levitical "Council for the Management of Harvesting and Gleaning" to go around with measuring rods to make sure they left enough in the corners).

    I kinda suspect you could be familiar with Lewis.
     
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    If you don't become grumpy as you get old, you've missed the point.

    I suppose it's really about need. C. S. Lewis wrote “The Abolition of Man” because he believed that only objective values had meaning & that most values are subjective. He used the phrase “this waterfall is sublime” to illustrate that this is only a statement about a person's feelings & that it says nothing about the object, the waterfall. Lewis thought that such a subjective value is faulty & that a waterfall can be objectively worthy of praise. To the contrary, I would suggest that my positive or negative reaction to seeing the waterfall can only be subjective & will either agree or disagree with the other person's statement about the waterfall.

    I think he lost the plot at that point. He saw those who would deny the objective value of the waterfall as trying to quash basic, universal, moralities of both East & West, that in some cases do not automatically develop in youngsters naturally, but have to be inculcated by education. He does not seem to understand that the objective value, the physics of a waterfall is for the water to fall. That's it. Of course, being clever monkeys, we harness the power of certain waterfalls to improve our physical wellbeing.

    Lewis wrote that the “Tao, which others may call Natural Law or Traditional Morality or the First Principles of Practical Reason or the First Platitudes, is not one among a series of possible systems of value. It is the sole source of all value judgements. If it is rejected, all value is rejected. If any value is retained, it is retained. The effort to refute it and raise a new system of value in its place is self-contradictory. There has never been, and never will be, a radically new judgement of value in the history of the world. What purport to be new systems or…ideologies…all consist of fragments from the Tao itself, arbitrarily wrenched from their context in the whole and then swollen to madness in their isolation, yet still owing to the Tao and to it alone such validity as they posses.”

    In Taoism, it is the object of spiritual practice to become one with the primordial essence, the fundamental nature of the Universe. That's just selfish. Lewis wrote: “Friendship is unnecessary, like philosophy, like art. It has no survival value; rather it is one of those things which give value to survival.” I prefer Groucho Marx: “When you're in jail a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying 'Damn, that was fun'.”

    Familiar with Lewis? Yes. Respect for his work? Nope. Does not compute. :cool:

    http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/do-animals-have-souls-like-human-beings

    All the best,

    Perry.
     
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