UK forges ahead with alcohol limit for boaters

Discussion in 'Press Releases' started by Guillermo, Jun 13, 2007.

  1. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    Whats this for --has there been a lot of drunken accidents?

    Ive never seen a drunken accident involving a boat. I cant rememeber even seeing some one fall in the water.

    One day all these laws will need to be removed. That will be a bigger problem than installing them.
     
  2. Guillermo
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    Guillermo Ingeniero Naval

    What about this one....? :D
     

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  3. lazeyjack

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    well the light WAS green?:p
     
  4. Frosty

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    How do you know the driver of that accident was drunk. And-- or-- too drunk to drive. You could be sober and have an accident.

    I dont like laws they are too definitive. I love a drink but would never ever with my bigger boat. Skiing and messing well--maybe.

    But then you cant ski--Ive tried it.

    To be honest in Uk its just too cold to think about drinking cold beer. usually tidal so you dont have the time, and then you already have driving vehicle laws to think about to get home afterwards.

    I would not have thought that it was such a problem so big as to need more laws.
     
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  5. StianM
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    StianM Senior Member

    My fathers buisnes partner did the same thing with there Taxiboat.

    It was nigh and he trusted the radar witch actualy can pick up smal objects, but he had adjusted it to a too large range:p

    He hit one off those steel bar showing shalow places(about 50mm) diameter in 37knot.
    Got a 500mm hole in the bow and it bended so the boat flew over it having some gelcoat damage on the bottom and tok out one drive.

    The reason it did not go that bad was that the boats hull was twice as thick as the requirements + the steel bar probartly 50years old and contained 50% rust.

    So it's enough to be stupid, drunk is not neaded.:D
     
  6. safewalrus
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    safewalrus Ancient Marriner

    This law is being made by the British government for the main reason a lot of you guys left the place - because they can!! The Labur party has made more new laws in the last few years (mainly because once they get thrown out they know there is little chance of them getting back in as a Government) than have been made in this country over the last 50 years - most of them have been 'knee jerk' reaction to something going wrong! A lot of the time there is already a law in place to prevent whatever it is happening it just is to much like hard work to look for it or apply it - also of course if they did that they wouldn't get their names up 'in lights'
     
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    gilly,,,what is the name of that boat ?,,cant make it out ,longliner
     
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    charmc Senior Member

    "Temporary Insanity" ... Appropriate. :D :D
     
  9. longliner45
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    longliner45 Senior Member

    here in USA alota drunk boaters ,,,,the last one I saw that keeps in my mind ,,,,was a scarab with drunk caption,,(if you can call him one ) ,ramming a sailboat at midnight on the intercoastal water way in pensicola fla ,,,,,killed 5 while they were sleeping,,,apparently ,at least here ,we need some laws.I dont see nothing wrong ,with haveing a few onboard ,,but you gotta know when to say when,,also you euros know ..pretty much ,americans like thier drink,,,,it was common in italy and germany to go to a bar and everyone having fun ,,euros drink to solcialise americans drink to get drunk ,,longliner,,,,,,no offence ment to the smart ones
     
  10. Frosty

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    Thats a shocking storey--but-- would a law against drinking have stoped that.

    That particular accident was cause by utter stupidity for someone to have drunk so much and to think they could still drive at speed at night.

    We can never make laws against people like that.

    Its against the law to rob a bank but people still seem to think they can get away with it.

    I think too many laws and restrictions will encourage even worse social disfunctional behaviour, resulting in frustration and rebelious actions
    that hurt out fellow neighbours even more.
     
  11. longliner45
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    if you (enforced the law ,and held them accountable),,,,,,,maybe...longliner
     
  12. Poida
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    Poida Senior Member

    I went out last night had a few. Got someone to pick me up and I picked up my car thismorning.

    Would I have driven if there was no drink driving laws? Probably because making a rational decision when you have been drinking is compromised regardless of how clever you think you are.

    So the law has made that decision for me.

    So I had a great night chilli mussles heaps of red wine followed by chocolate mud cake ice cream and cream.

    The evening wasn't spoilt by getting booked for over the limit or worse killing someone.

    Drink driving boats, all the law is doing is removing your assessment on your ability to control a boat if you have been drinking.

    My two cents worth.

    Poida
     
  13. Frosty

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    It is against the law to kill people, "Thou shalt not kill" but people murder every day. There are very strong penalties for murder.

    People who break the law arnt afraid of the law. They do not fear the consiquences because they will not get caught,!! ( back to the stupidity bit again).

    It would appear to me therfore that the consiquences are'nt severe enough.

    Some people CAN drink and drive in moderation, some absalutely can NOT.

    If you are responsable for a drunken accident whilst driving a car you should never be able to drive again, not just 6 months ban.

    I think we are focused too much on punishment-- Its not punishment I am concerened about, remove that person and his attitude to others off the road,--forever.

    I think people have already worked out a plan if they get caught,They can go to work with my next door neighbour--no problem.
     
  14. alan white
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    alan white Senior Member

    More laws. I'd think there would be an exemption for sailboats under sail for private use. There are boats that will do 60 mph--------- a few years ago a jetski rammed a party boat in the fog, at night, on Lake Winnipisaki, NH.
    Killed a couple of people. Drunk jetskiers.
    The word "boat" is used to encompass anything that floats on water, which I guess is like saying cars have wheels and roller skates have wheels, and all wheeled vehicles share the same responsibilities.
    An innertube might be exempt, but what about a department store 4 ft inflatable "boat"? Yes, you get hit with one of those babies, and it's a horror show! You know, those things have beer pockets molded right in!
    What about swimming pools? Suppose you are sitting in one of those plastic blow up beer-holder boats, and all red-faced and belligerant, threatening to ram a small kid on a foam board? A cop is passing by (luckily) and his rigorous training has taught him to judge such situations and react.
    Not silly enough? There are dads who give kids rides on their backs at the beach. Technically, that makes them a boat. The question is who to ticket. The kid's too young, and the dad is just a boat. You can't rightfully ticket a VEHICLE. Besides, then you'd have to ticket all boats that ran on alcohol, whether fiberglass, wood, aluminum, or carbon-based.
     

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    longliner45 Senior Member

    poida ,,I agree,,,if it wernt for the laws ,,,,I would alreaddy killed many dumbasses,,but because we are civil,and make and live by rules and laws as deturants ,,,,this keeps us in keel,however your not to stop all the offenders ,,but you can get them off the streets,with incarceration,,,if you follow the penaltys for the offence ,,no plea bargains ,,no deals ,and if you dont mind my saying ,,any man who knows his faults and weakness,is a real man,, and acts accordingly,to adjust,,is a real man ,,,,,longliner
     
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