Try to avoid being shipwrecked but especially in Fiji on a weekend.

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by Corley, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. Corley
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  2. SamSam
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    Shipwrecking is only allowed 8 AM - 5PM, M - F. Closed For Lunch.
     
  3. Petros
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    good thing they did not have a real emergency.
     
  4. Herman
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    Reminds me of the French town where it was forbidden to pass away as the coroner was on holiday...
     
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    Learn to sail in South Africa - from the moment that you put foot on the boat you better take responsibility for your actions - help is only available in the big cities and they are on a limited budget.
     
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    I got mixed feelings about requiring TAX FUNDED rescue for rich children who intentionally put themselves in harms way as their way of showing off the expensive toys.

    Sure, those same rich kids will also be paying a lot of tax, and are more than likely also leading members of society, but still.

    Maybe the Govts should just announce.....

    "we advise against taking to the sea in your own little boat, and thus will no longer be providing any rescues.

    we got crap like children's vaccines we need to pay for instead".
     
  7. michael pierzga
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    Sure...make it so that when you purchase an EPIRB or radio , you must also purchase insurnce to cover the rescue.

    You could then choose to sail without outside assistance and save on costs .
     
  8. Frosty

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    yup --your obviously just crew an not an owner.
     
  9. Corley
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    It's a grand tradition of the sea that we attempt to provide rescue for those who need it. It's not only rich kids who have taken to the seas in small boats in fact I think much of your assesment is flawed as true "rich kids" charter yachts or pay crews to transfer their boats to a cruising location of choice. Transport and delivery of large yachts is actually rather a blue collar job carried out by paid delivery crews along with the maintenance schedule for said yacht.

    We have too few avenues for life experiences these days there is no sense in closing off another one such as cruising and ocean racing by individuals and families due to small mindedness and penny pinching. Apart from anything else it keeps our navy and search and rescue services in a state of readiness for carrying out rescues on essential commercial shipping.
     
  10. michael pierzga
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    The marine industry bases its business plan on....everyone can do it.

    Any regulation such as licensing or inspection, that prevented Joe the plumber from parking his SUV and jumping in a boat, would be fought by the industry.

    90 percent of the people on the water shouldn't be there. Its just the way it is.
     
  11. pdwiley
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    I agree with him completely and I'm *not* crew.

    What's the problem, Frosty? Logic is pretty clear. If you want to be rescued (maybe) buy an EPIRB and insurance. Or don't. Your choice.

    Unless you're getting paid to go to sea, nobody is forcing you to do it to earn a quid. Take your chances, pay insurance or stay home.

    PDW
     
  12. rwatson
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    There are plenty of professional sailors (as opposed to the 'incompetent' amateurs) that rely on government funded rescue - round the world racers for example, fishermen as well.

    Also, a lot of coast guard services around the world involve volunteers, ex sailors who do things you couldn't pay a sane man to do.

    If you bring insurance into the equation, you then run the problem of the insurance company having to guarantee performance. How are you going to do that for someone heading around the Horn, or in the middle of the Pacific?

    Having worked in the auto breakdown services for a bit, its hard enough getting mechanics to track down motorists on civilized highways - for money. We used to refer the process of ringing up the local mechanic as 'selling'

    Imagine being an insurance company trying to engage contractors for a big yacht hijacked off Somalia ?

    This safety at sea thing will always be a charity job - there are no guarantees on the water.
     
  13. Frosty

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    Do you know what the most difficult thing to sell is --Fire extinguishers.

    Im not going to set on fire oh no not me .--If it wasnt regulation they would not buy them ..

    I live a long way from regulation by choice don't spread that crap over here.

    You pay your insurance --you do it.


    Now how much would you like to pay to register your EPIRB?

    How much have you given to life saving charity this year ille bet I can guess.

    Do you want all buyers of EPIRBS to pay this insurance even though they may not sail in the Med or Australia or California.

    You do what you want and ille do what I want ---deal?

    Leave the world alone and stop suggesting more stupid regulations.

    Only crew could come up with a simple silly idea as that.

    I go out to sea on my own. I can and will look after myself, dont come save me ---please.
     
  14. michael pierzga
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    Just review AMVERS logs....Atlantic Merchant Vessel Emergency Reporting (AMVER) System.... to realize how many poorly prepared boats are rescued

    http://www.amver.com/news_archive.asp
     

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    Big assumption that they were all "poorly prepared ".

    Plenty of big steel boats wrecked along the coasts of the world.
     
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