Train submarine

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  1. mistereddb
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    Hi
    I am also new and have only a layman's understanding of boats but having worked in the courier business I am aware of people wanting their freight delivered to remote places quickly.

    To include a lot of these places in world trade I suggest a one kilometer long submarine that will take a container train and can nose up to any suitable beach in the world with a suitable section of rail to allow the incoming train off and the exported product on.

    As it would only go just below the waves it could have a conventional diesel motor with snorkel and I suggest a detachable control pod in case of emergency.

    The construction could be of steel or concrete formed continuously off a suitable beach or sections joined at sea.

    Any thoughts please
     
  2. FMS
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    Places without an existing port facility don't have enough freight volume to make a massive ship profitable. Irregularities and unknowns are too many. Beach loading is weather dependent, environmentally questionable, and can risk schedule and loss. I won't even address all the costs and risks involved with submersibles. An inexpensive barge and tug is a better solution.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback
    What about a 500m one that would only take a train loaded with standard pallets
     
  4. PAR
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    So how much coke are you attempting transport in one shot?
     
  5. rwatson
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    I think a landing barge with drop bow, with mini containers for the coke would be the go. The mini-containers would keep the merchandise dry during heavy weather.

    Standard containers work well for large ports, but for the isolated beaches, possible shallow waters, and maybe unloading to 4wd utilities for fast dispersement and getaways, small containers may be helpful.
     

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    10 out of 10 for originality, probably scores a bit lower for practicality !
     
  7. michael pierzga
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    Didnt the Russians use these tractor mini subs during the cold war to infiltrate Swedish and Finnish coastal waters
     
  8. NavalSArtichoke
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    And you could use the submarine to sink all of those expensive 18000 TEU container ships being built/sailing now.
     
  9. dskira

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    Beware, the Columbian can be interested :D
     
  10. PAR
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    Thank you Daniel, that was the point of my post too.
     
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    The whole point of containers is that you can shift them from one means of transport to another relatively quickly. There's no point to dragging a whole damn train around with the containers, whether you carry it by ship or submarine. You would have to be careful anyway since there are different rail gauges to consider, depending on which ports you travel between.
     
  12. El_Guero

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    You would have coke dealers lining up if you got that deliverable.

    :D

    And maybe the Coasties, and the Blue water guys, and some unmanned drones .....
     
  13. El_Guero

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    Your best bet would be a WIG type vessel... greater cargo capability than normal aircraft, but fuel burn is in between aircraft and boats.... they already make several in flying boat configurations .... because it is a plane, it is usually able to fly around weather which would keep a boat ( or sub ) from offloading cargo ....

    More expensive than traditional 'slow boat cargo by way of china,' but I think not much more expensive. And much less than traditional aircraft - less than 1/5th the fuel burn of traditional aircraft.
     
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    Its like the Channel Tunnel - making a getaway on its own.

    A kilometer long vessel - nosing up the the beach. I imagine it snapping in two as the bow was on the beach, and the stern was hung up a kilometer off the waters edge as the tide went out.

    Maybe we should have underwater terminals for these kilometer long subs. No more problems waiting at anchor while inclement weather prevents docking.

    Oh - no one has put him in touch with the { dramatic music } - CONCRETE SUBMARINE THREAD !!!!

    http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/submarine-yacht-project-13844.html
     
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