TP52s

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by mighetto, Nov 1, 2004.

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  1. Skippy
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    Skippy Senior Member

    He had a quiet period a year or so ago. Maybe trolls are hibernatory.
     
  2. MikeR
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    MikeR Junior Member

    Key West 06


    On Tuesday, when it was blowing from the south and the swells had built, we hit 19.3 kts on my son's j80. Felt like being in a tunnel with a firehose. That is one wet, but totally fun, boat.

    Cheers,

    MikeR
     
  3. mighetto
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    Hi Mike

    If Zoro wants a TP52 he should have one. The marketing of these vessels is the study in boat design that is important. I mostly object to putting the boats out to pasture in my back yard. They really are a burdon on the sailing clubs unfortunate enough to have to support them and do nothing for the Rise of the American Sailor. This is because they are little more than training vessels. There is a reason beginners start with keel boats. It has nothing to do with superior design. Movable ballast is superior design. Just look at Mac26x vessels....

    http://www.sailinganarchy.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=32514

    Anarchy Inc.? That means ownership change. Who is the editor now. Perhaps yours truly - April Fools :p

    I have been invited to the 2006 International Sandwich Symposium whose main theme is Coring Hull Bottoms. Actually I have been invited multiple times now and April 20th is around the corner. So lets stop joking around. The TP52s and their likely paid bloggers who have done much to slow progress on movable ballast designs like Macgregors and VO70s and adoption of IRC are giving way to all kinds of retractable foil designs. So unless the invites are a big April fools joke, I expect to meet a few more of you all in person.

    www.diabgroup.com/symposium.html

    Frank L. Mighetto
     
  4. MikeR
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    MikeR Junior Member

    I hope I'm not getting sucked in

    Frank-

    Please forgive me if I don't understand but what does your response have to do with my comment about how fast we went at Key West?

    Just interested.

    Cheers,

    MikeR
     
  5. usa2
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    usa2 Senior Member

    thats the point-none of his responses are relevant to legitimate questions posed in the thread.
     
  6. longliner45
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    is it possible for someone to put a print of tp52 and a mac26 on here so I could see?
     
  7. SailDesign
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    SailDesign Old Phart! Stay upwind..

    Frank,
    I too had an invite to that symposium. As did every other designer I know. To have been invited is really just a question of "Who might be willing to pay us $600?" rather than "Who is qualified enough to attend?"
    Then you have to consider the source (Diab).
    Don't let it go to your head.....
    Steve
     
  8. mighetto
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    I am invited as a delegate. My head - my head! It looks like a sincere outreach. But I do get a lot of joking. The field of boat building and designing is changing fast. What did you think of the second Zoro Film? Antonio is or wants to be a TP52 sailor. I could not help notice, being a Seattle boy, that in the film the evil empire was called One World as in the Seattle Yacht Club's design cheating AC syndicate.

    SSSS is having its next two performance sailing seminars on modern boat construction. One of the big problems is that you can not see light through the hull with sandwich construction. This makes the interior a dark cave like structure. But one great advantage is that any one with a shed and neighbors that are tolerant might be able to build. I am hoping for some good Larry AC boat information from the seminar. We have been drinking Scullers IPA since the first hull was flown out of Seattle. This beer is brewed the closest to where the hulls were built. I'll have some at the seminar. Anyway consider attending. Yacting history is happening.

    Frank L. Mighetto
     
  9. sorenfdk
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    sorenfdk Yacht Designer

    Damn - that's another thing I never thought about!
    Thank You for drawing my attention to this most important issue!
     
  10. SailDesign
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    SailDesign Old Phart! Stay upwind..

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mighetto
    One of the big problems is that you can not see light through the hull with sandwich construction. This makes the interior a dark cave like structure.

    As opposed to one of those see-through wooden boats?

    What a maroon!
     
  11. Shife
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    Shife Anarchist

    Damn. I was really hoping Frank had met his demise in an attempt to sail offshore in his WonderCrap 26x, but I see he's alive and spewing more nonsense than ever.

    Edit: Also....Pay attention Frank, because I will only say this once. Scot Tempesta is still the owner of SA. The site has gotten big enough that it made sense to incorperate. It affords him legal protection from whacko nutjobs like you, among other benefits.
     
  12. frankofile
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    Anyone attending this conference??? Would love to read about the reception Frank gets. If he actually goes. Which is a long shot considering what a blowhard he is.
     
  13. Jim Hauser
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    Can anyone confirm that Buchan and Parker are having new TP52's built? I got confirmation that Parker is not buying a used one, but got a no comment when asked about a new one.

    3 tp52s in seattle would rock.
     
  14. Reemul
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    I know that they have talked to a few designers and are interested in a faster boat. Also Sudie does have a sweet spot for Cookson built boats. However, I know that they want a boat that can be "cruised" also. Knowing the costs involved, I would think they would buy Icon before a new TP52.
     

  15. Jim Hauser
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    good info, she was close liped when I asked. Do you think she would buy Icon or will she have a custom built? Will they have a new boat by big boats?
     
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