TP52s

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by mighetto, Nov 1, 2004.

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  1. aitchem
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    aitchem Junior Member

    Is there a way of marking this thread read instead of having to hit "last" and "back".?
    I don't want the ***** here thinking I am reading this crap by creating another "hit" on the thread.!
     
  2. frankofile
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    ******** Frank. You've made this and similar claims many times before - the MacCrap26 is somehow a big influence in sailboat racing, most great racers began on the MacCrap26, etc. Where are the numbers? Not one or two lucky wins, one of which was in a cruising class that allowed use of a motor as I recall, and not 5000 hulls out there collecting barnacles. Where are all the MacCrap26s racing, and who are the great sailors who came up through the MacCrap26 ranks? You claim to offer proof when asked so let's see it. (ha! I'm not holding my breath...)

    You're a troll Frank. How do you back up your claim that Farr Intl went bankrupt? Nothing, just political nonsense. How do you back up your claim that US Sailing doesn't support the TP52 class? Nothing, just more political nonsense. Your supposed contributions to sailing? Dude, you are a pathetic buffoon. People laugh at you in spite of themselves. That is your sole contribution.

    Whatever the hell a Valintine is, I sincerely doubt that anyone will ever voluntarily agree to be yours.
     
  3. frankofile
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    How is having to explain your unprofessional conduct to your employer a contribution to sailing?

    You mean someone who owns an S2 7.9 is racing on someone else's Tripp 47??? People sail on each other's boats all the time. Hardly a conspiracy.

    Haven't you been told before that the S2 7.9 keel retracts for trailering, not for racing? But there I go again, expecting you to pay attention and actually learn something.
     
  4. Jim Hauser
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    It is a conspiracy when nobody invites you out to sail with them all the while other club members sail with each other. Migghie had a chance to sail on the Tripp, she also had arranged a beer can race on the TP52, and a santa cruz 70 for frank. He's scared shitless of going faster than 4 knots or heeling more than 5 degrees.

    Will we see Frankie at Toliva? I doubt it. His wife doesn't like him out playing past dinner time.
     
  5. stevel
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    stevel Lost at sea

    Not just any McBoat, that's Frank

    That picture is posted and discussed in this thread a few months ago. It is Frank getting in the way of a race, or as he likes to say, "being hunted".
     
  6. sorenfdk
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    sorenfdk Yacht Designer

    Do You really think so?


    No - should I be? Maybe someone in the Northwest cares (although I doubt it!), but why should the rest of the world?


    Yes I do, and I think it's a good thing if it really is unhackable (although I doubt that too!), because it's so entertaining.


    No, I'm not, and I can't see what proposed laws on internet bullying has got to do with sailing.


    Did she put a gun to his head or did he go voluntarily?


    If only You knew what You were talking about...


    If You were so fantastic, why aren't You secretary any more?


    And, finally:
    You still owe us evidence concerning the bankruptcy of Farr International.
     
  7. mighetto
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    Hey, our faith precludes the making of such images.

    The Mac26x comes with a Coleman ice chest and the idea is that you cart that back and forth from boat to home. Heck that's work. If its on the boat it stays there. I am not carting it back - no way. I don't want it to go bad so hence the thermal. If you remove the liner for the ice chest storage compartment, the fit is near perfect on the Mac26x. Many Mac26x owners remove the ice chest from its designed place under the aft dinette seat and use this for storage. The ice chest storage compartment is the only finished compartment on the vessel and the ice chest itself can be possitioned as they are on the Mac26m or better yet under the table. Mac26x pocket cruisers originally were fitted out with Coleman ice chests by the factory. Many boaters do not know that Coleman (the outdoor equipment firm) purchased Hobie Cat Company (at the time a public company) in the 1970s with Hobie Alter becoming a consultant to Coleman. Since the only finished storage compartment on an X houses the ice chest, Coleman was honored by - if not connected to - MacGregor Yachts, prior to the introduction of the M (which is not fitted out with a chest by the factory). Perhaps today's camping image for Coleman is not in keeping with the M's big boat interior which often includes a TV/DVD system. In anycase the Mac26x is tied to the Hobie Cat beach boats through its ice chest and also through Hobie Cat athletes. Remember that MacGregor produced cruising cats for many years. Many owners (not me) beach Mac26x cruisers like a catamaran. I have listened to many versions of a story involving Hobie Cat athletes sailing a Mac26x at 17 MPH in Mexican or San Franciscan waters and one of these days I will bump into a first hand witness, assuming the story is true. The story usually involves a fleet of Hobie Cats with a Mac26x serving as mother ship. The Cats take off and those left on the mother ship take chase and achieve 17MPH under sail. Most assume the athletes on the mother ship hiked out and sailed unballasted. However, having achieved 12 and 13 MPH on several occasions now fully ballasted - with crew sitting inside the life lines - I doubt the X was unballasted or rigged so that hiking out could be supported. One captain has reported to Sailnet of reaching 17 MPH by starting off fully ballasted and dropping the ballast after stabilizing the boat on a downwind point of sail. Even if the Hobie-cat athelete-crewed Mac26x story is fable, pocket rocket is a valid descriptor for the vessel. Bottom line - on an X there should be some kind of Coleman equipment aboard just for tradition.

    Is the image commercially available. I would like copies.

    Frank L. Mighetto
    glad to see things lighten up.
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  8. frankofile
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    Why? So you don't have to provide "evidence" for any of the questions you were asked yesterday? What a horse's *** you are.
     
  9. stevel
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    stevel Lost at sea

    Hey! Keep It Civil. Don't Start Insulting Horses Here.
     
  10. frankofile
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    frankofile Junior Member

    Got a little carried away. My apologies to horses and horse lovers.
     
  11. Skippy
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    stevel: Hey! Keep It Civil. Don't Start Insulting Horses Here.
    He's only insulting the ***.
     
  12. bhnautika
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    Ok I’ve read and read but nobody has ask or posed the thought for discussion
    1 Are movable/removable ballasted boats inherently unseaworthy?
    2 The shifting of blame from operator error to design error /flaw by (for what ever purpose) third parties. This should be up for serious discussion. As this has an effect on all designers and builders
     
  13. Shife
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    Shife Anarchist

    You're not going to find any serious discussion in this thread. Just fantasy and make-believe, countered with logic and fact, that goes completely ignored.
     
  14. bhnautika
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    bhnautika Senior Member

    Yeah but if you keeping driving into the mud your going to get bogged. May be its time to get out and push in the right direction.
     

  15. frankofile
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    frankofile Junior Member

    bhnautika,
    Other threads on this forum discuss those and other serious and real sailing topics. Or feel free to start your own. This thread is the comedy channel, featuring a show called "Watch the Idiot Dance". It is definitely lowest-common-denominator entertainment. Pull up a comfortable chair and be prepared to laugh, and to be amazed at the absurd things the Idiot comes up with.

    edit: I hope I'm not insulting idiots.
     
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