titanic tourist sub

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  1. jehardiman
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    Pretty interesting. Apparently on one dive the sub was bashed against its surface platform for an hour. It was also towed through a fishing net at night.

    I wonder how many bashes it can take and still dive to those depths..
     
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    One of the final comments of the day they ask a witness if S. Rush had discussed how many cycles the sub could do and Rush told him indefinite which I took as no limit.
     
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    One analysis...

     
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    One of the criticisms here was not maintaining even glue margins on the rings. Even in woodshop, we learn overclamping can result in adhesive starvation and a weak bond. Unless they had a taper in the machining; the work looked really odd, hand smearing resins and then sliding the rings over the edge and saying we only get one try to get it right.

    crickeys
     
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    Wow, isn't that interesting.
    I'm one hour into the long video.
    Staggering.
     
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    I'll put it into the Playlist for my next layover. Had a chance to watch the Australian 60 minutes interview from James Cameron that dropped yesterday, he very politely didn't pull any punches.

    That ntsb video is a long one...
     
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    One small spoiler.

    I’m a little surprised they used peelply between 5 layups and the potential for discontinuity and then they found discontinuity in the post mortem(sorry). If I had discontinuity after a peelply layer, I’d fill it with epoxy putty. Here, it appears they pretended it didn’t matter. Even a boat builder wouldn’t shrug it off.

    They pretended a lot didn’t matter.
     
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    You can skip through loads of it but the engineers report is telling.
    10x more voids spaces than allowed in the 5" cylindrical composite wall, adhesion issues, etc, etc, etc.
     
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    And the builders were not on board. Just the fellow who paid them. And the folks who paid him.
     
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    More analysis and commentary on the hearings, this time focusing on the hull to dome glue joint.

     

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    The use of CFC sleeve-hull shape is not understandable to me. If a scuba tank made of CFC makes mechanical sense to me , it does not necessarily have to work with a reverse pressure system. In the case of scuba tank , fibers are stretched, it works as intended, in the case of Titan I do not know how the fibers worked.
    I'm surprised they managed to do so many dives .Incredible strenght even if the fibers were not working properly .
    Make a deep going CFC submersible is possible but specific properties of composites should be consider in the project .
    I've seen these rings how they are glued before, I didn't even see any excess glue leak out. It wasn't done well.I would do it in reverse position , ring at the bottom and glue should be in excess. The clevis themselves were also too thin , IMO.
    Welding hanging points were also risky , they could use soft transport belt with ease.
     
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