Thinking about a motorsailor

Discussion in 'Motorsailers' started by 8ball, May 17, 2015.

  1. 8ball
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    8ball Junior Member

    I'm wondering if this is feasible. I have the hull, engine, electronics, basically all the parts except the mast and sail. I like the standing lug sail for it's reported simplicity and economy, just not very familiar with sail design. The hull is thirty feet and has about 800 pounds of ballast. It never had a sail, it was always a trawler. voyager_30_drawing 88.jpg
     
  2. FAST FRED
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    A boat that can sail to windward will usually have about 40% of the displacement in the keel.

    800 lbs of ballast will steady a trawler , but not sail into the wind in much of a breeze.

    Only "Fools and Yachtsmen " sail to windward so the iron topsail might be enough.
     
  3. 8ball
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    That's what I suspected, however I was shooting for more of a sail assisted efficient trawler for the great loop, it'll need a tabernacle though.
     
  4. whitepointer23

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    Down here that style of boat was the standard lobster boat for decades. The ones that are still being used have ditched booms and mainsails in favor of furling genoas. Much easier to handle
     
  5. 8ball
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    I have an old friend that lives in Tasmania, maybe I should come down and check out some boats and pay a visit. I had a 27 ft. sailboat once and I found that a great deal of the time was spent with just the genoa up.
     
  6. whitepointer23

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    Tassie is the home of these style boats. You picked the right place to visit.
     
  7. whitepointer23

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    The tassie cray boats mainly use the sail as a steadying sail to give the live crays (lobsters) a smoother ride in the wetwell to keep them alive.
     
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  9. 8ball
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    Nice looking boat with an impressive traditional rig, I like that.
     
  10. whitepointer23

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    If you want a full sailing rig you will need to engage a naval architect . There is a lot to consider such as mast placement. Hull stress points chain plate areas. Mast step. Rig size. Righting moment. Probably a dozen other things I don't know.
     
  11. RHP
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    Quite agree, not using a naval architect would be crazy.
     
  12. whitepointer23

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    Loved the nigelirens link rhp. Magnificent looking boats.
     
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  14. whitepointer23

    whitepointer23 Previous Member

    Thanks mate.
     

  15. taniwha
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    Passagemakerlite sail assisted

    Here you are Tad Roberts passagemakerlite sail version
    www.passagemaker.co.za
     
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