The perfect Passagemaker? (style within this genre)

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Which one is your preferred style of long range cruiser?

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  1. hoytedow
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    If a potential buyer is too dumb to read this thread before-hand, he does not deserve such a fine boat, anyway.
     
  2. mydauphin
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    Perhaps a new consolidated summary of everything as a final product would be interesting. It only took 20 pages per thread to reach this point.
     
  3. hoytedow
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    "The Perfect Passagemaker, a Consolidated Summary"
     
  4. apex1

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    Soon...........

    Here some first sketches as a teaser...........
     

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  5. RHP
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    Thats too industrial looking for me, I can smell it from here.
     
  6. apex1

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    That is the purpose Richard.
    It shall not look like a yacht.

    The "Gentlemans" yacht will fit your taste better I guess?

    Regards
    Richard
     
  7. wardd
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    will look great tooling from island to island with a rusty freighter paint scheme
     
  8. mark775

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    There seems to be a fascination with rust here. I, personally, believe it to be very unseamanlike.
     
  9. dskira

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    This is my problem with this design, but can be easily changed.
    The outside is all business, real passage maker and all the attribute of a real all weather voyager, and inside the engine room belongs to a little coastal cruiser.
    If you don't have a proper engine room, forget the all purpose profile.
    This one unfortunately fail on this very important point.
    I will say go for it, with a remodelled accommodation distribution and also put some weight on the lady, she has nothing underwater.
    The hull is not in accordance with her profile, but that also can be redraw easely
    But as I said all that can be easily changed, since the overall design is gorgeous and ready for these changes.
    My two cents
    Daniel

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  10. FAST FRED
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    That is the purpose Richard.
    It shall not look like a yacht.

    A WWII "camoflage" paint scheme will answer that desirement.

    "and inside the engine room belongs to a little coastal cruiser."

    For most the ability to do routine PM is the majority of the work,

    It is usually the "systems" that need most of the effort.


    With the light weight of todays engines , the bow would seem the best location.

    Easy to ventilate , loads of wall space for watermakers , refrigeration compressors , heating plant , and all todays usual high maint toys .

    For efficiency a boat this size will probably have a CPP , so powering to the thrust bearing is simply a couple of truck drive shafts , with their bearings.Super cheap and repairable.

    FF
     
  11. apex1

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    Right Daniel!

    The crux is to stay within the width given, making it possible to have a proper sized wheelhouse without having three decks.
    This was just a proposal from the NA and has to be redrawn anyway.
    As you might assume, this is not a engine room I will accept in the final layout.

    Fred,
    you might have missed that I do NOT install these lightweight engines in such craft! Here we have drawn a 25ltr. Lugger, to make the dimension obvious.
    CPP, as you know, is a MUST on such go everywhere boat, hence standard. And for the knowledgeable eye clearly to see in the sketch above.
    That is, what makes these boats possible (and affordable to operate).
    Richard
     
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    The N-28, her name is ‘‘Mooie Meid’’

    Cheers,
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    From Niewpoort Belgium, Mooie Meid = Beautiful Girl :)
     
  13. mark775

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    I have to say, Mooie Meid is a beautiful girl. Culdn't live with the "Red Stack Tug" (Crowley Maritime) paint tho. That's just me for having worked for them for years. At first blush, it looks quite similar to Richard's.
    Daniel, as far as weight down low goes, there will be plenty of tankage and ballast, I presume. You may know me - I'd make half the boat engine ROOM (not engine space). A part of the engine that is not easily accessable is often ignored "just this once" and a pleasant room is where one spends time. I was mate on a large minesweeper converted to landing craft for a few winters, the engine room was large but the round hull made it difficult to walk around the outboard sides of the engines (two). Guess where EVERY fault arose (ABs say; "I just looked there last hour") One of the faults was an injector line bracket that had rattled loose and chafed thru the line. It wud have been noticed BEFORE it atomized an inflammable mist all over the engine room if there was better access. I know Richard feels the same.
     
  14. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    You're right, the red stack doesn't suit her, but she's a working girl who can't decide on her own make-up. But she's better painted than most of her colleagues though, so she must been loved.

    Cheers,
    Angel
     

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    yipster designer

    gettin shape and nice drawings if i may say
    here somewhat similar lines on a more gentleman like yacht
    without fishermans bow roof, think i saw that 58 for only 1.4 million :eek:
    smaller they seem to get higher and like to see some of your station drawings
    and maybe you want to enlighten me how that steel hull to alu topsides slaming is done
    just curious and dont get uptight i'm showing a plastic boat again
    its just to discus the diffrences in lines and so
     
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