The perfect Passagemaker? (style within this genre)

Reverse bow on that ship wasn’t for speed. It was meant to be a weapon.

(When iron ships were introduced, naval artillery of the period couldn’t breach armour. So, new naval battle tactics were needed. Inspiration was found in the ancient Greek – Roman naval tactics: ships were used as a projectiles, strong, sharp bow rammed the opposing ship under the water line).

It could, but hull and superstructure are to bulky for a sail to have much effect. Enough to soften rolling a bit, but not much for propulsion.

 

It is not necessary to be much for propulsion and not even welcome. These are Motoryachts, nothing else.
When there is a temporary rig to stumble ahead, thats enough.

And please lets stop the discussion about old dreadnoughts.

 

I will remove the post.

 

No Hoyt,

we just must not get too deep into that topic.

 

Let us just say I attempted to lessen the temptation to go there.

 

It seems we will get a refinement of Tad´s proposal within the next days. The #8 on the list.
That will be interesting to discuss, because it is substantially lighter than the other boats.

A first sketch:



Regards
Richard

 

Do you think the lighter weight will make it more susceptible to damage from the usual bad weather conditions?

 

No Hoyt,

the lighter weight can, under certain circumstances, be a advantage. Lighter is faster, and speed lets you avoid the worst part of a front, when on the open ocean. And ONLY ocean passages are part of these threads.

These boats are just the product of a different philosophy. Both are valid, and both are proven right.

I am a old dinosaur, like Daniel and a few others. We like it rugged, stable, heavy and lasting `til eternity.

These lighter boats have their place on the market, no doubt. Saving fuel, running faster, having less material required (at the same cost though), makes sense.

Of course there is a flip side, as always in our business.

When you circumnavigate all year round and for extended time, you will replace half the equipment after much shorter lifespan than on the "real little ships".

That is for sure eating up any fuel savings, and ends up in a disadvantage.
But it fits the real world quite well.
More than 80% of the "Passagemakers" are just used for coastal cruising as the "Yoghurt cups". Then again it pays back to be lighter.

All a question of how good you can estimate your real requirements, and how well you can avoid mixing it with dreams.

Regards
Richard

 

Thanks. That makes a lot of sense. I was not sure if the lighter weight was a result of skimping on necessary material just to lower the cost to builder.

Glücklich Oktoberfest! I know it started in München heute.

 

We are getting closer!



Thank you Tad, especially for the round bilge!

Regards
Richard

 

looks beautiful. Why the preference for a round bilge?

 

Because I build boats to sell them, not to be stored in my backyard!

 

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So in general that's just what people prefer?

 

Is it just me

or

are we going mini dashew


BUT - I like it and personally would go that route
I read the comment about 60ft plus and the sea
but dashew is for very rich folks

sub 50ft - light - 2 small diesels - 8 knots - great fun

very nice boat Tad

 

Style :-

still one heck of a "stylish" boat with so many layout options
and could be built "affordable" for that market in todays economy


anyway - dont know if you saw this one of dashew
one very smart video
http://dashewoffshore.smugmug.com/gallery/6802329_jB96x#434939709_9pkLM-A-LB