The perfect Passagemaker? (style within this genre)

I can feel your pain.

But life is a ruthless game.

When the sailors get a bit older, they notice that sailing can become a tough job. The logical choice is more often than in the past, the motoryacht.

BTW
just leaving the page would not have harmed you!

Richard

 

"...can't preach too much against diesel dependency" - Well, It's going to burn heavier fuel than diesel but I know what you meant. Even with diesel, you wud be surprised at the economy of these vessels if you keep your foot out of it. The vessel I posted gets a mile a gallon at six knots and could carry twelve Priuses (two high) or four sailboats on its deck doing it, and when it was built little heed was payed to economy. Richard's boats will be built with economy in mind and will do even better.
Does maybe $20,000 a year in fuel for traveling all over the world sound like a lot? It sounds like a cheap, wonderful vacation to me, with better ameneties than available shoreside in most places. Might even haul some cargo and pay for that! This type of vessel, for those that can afford it, are the future, IMO. It is about the minimum size that can be comfortably self-contained, offers security in weather and who knows security from what else hidden from the world in a remote bay of Alaska or the Mar de Cortez or visiting Macau or Mauritius in good times. If it were not for the Jones Act (prohibiting port-to-port commerce for foreign builds within the US) I'd probably sell off what I own (have to check with wife first on that!) and use the proceeds as a down-payment on one of these vessels - and PAY FOR my means of living wherever I want with the occasional cargo I wud haul. Now, that's style!

"...just leaving the page would not have harmed you!" LOL!

 

I am still hoping to do just that taking people scuba diving or fishing.

 

I am taken by the Cox and Stevens design of 1918.
It is originally a wooden trawler, but it can be an inspiration of something in steel really interesting.
I think this vessel as everything, power, style, balance. The hull draft is quite amazing at 14', she weight a nice 700 tons. (steam propulsion)
of course I know it is far larger than Richard want, but it is good also to explore and take some inspiration.
And the sails, as I was talking on the propulsion thread are perfectly included.
What you expect from Daniel Cox, one of the greatest designer ever.

I hope I am not to extreme in my taste for this thread

Daniel

 

I like it, almost as much as a liberty ship

now if it had rust streaks it would be perfect

 

We need to remember this vessel that Richard is proposing is for people, as a home. This is the architecture bit of naval architecture.
Natural light, feeling of security, good offshore layout, easily accessed outside shelter from sun wind and rain while underway, either in or out of the sun. Good interior-exterior access, Easy bridge access from the Salon. Sheltered side decks, deck chairs in the shade.
As we remove the holds and working decks of the wonderful style of the boat just posted you end up with the same style and practical solutions as Fairmile did themselves when they converted trawlers to yachts based on the same hull.

 

That's an easy feature to add, and a very cheap one too.

 

Yes, I agree. very well said.
Daniel

 

Not when I build the boat, let me claim!

Epoxy primed and encapsulated, such steel boat must not, and will not show rust stain when there is a little maintenance effort invested.

Though the idea of building something around the lines of that old coaster, obviously fallen out of the last century, looking like coming home from a 86 years trip, that does have a very strong, and magical power of attraction to me.

Imagine the rust stained and salt crusted hull and bridge, the proud stem heading to port in a drizzly evening at autumn. shivver.....

 

I'm sure about that.

Well Richard, one of reasons why I love the old boats is right because of that rusty and lived appearance. It is like looking at a historical monument. Somehow, it fills me with a sense of awe, respect and peace (yes, peace...) to know that I'm standing in front of an "living" object which has seen so much human history and could tell so many life stories that 100 books wouldn't be enough, if one wanted to write them.

So how about letting the metal surface rust to the right amount, then dry it thoroughly and cover it all with a clear (transparent) protective coatings and varnishes? The aluminum parts could be a problem though, if you wanted them unpainted. Otherwise, they could be painted with simil-rust patterns and then coated/varnished.

Incidentally, model makers are experts in creating simil-rusty appearences on the models of the old warships and freighters, I've seen some true artworks at few expositions I've had occasion to visit.

Cheers

 

Attracts me,

really!

No effort to apply "rust stains" and "salt encrustment" with modern paint and resins.

It is Operette, yes, but what are the "modern" style vessels? Drama.....

There is another advantage, having a "old and weathered" ship. Instead of stealing your electronics, burglars would probably nail a 20$ note on the wooden railing, out of pity.................

As I said before, dreaming is allowed on the Passagemaker threads!

 

Just leave some nails, washer etc on the bulwark... no protection needed

 

exactly

 

there you go. fender washers + magnets = temporary rust tatoos.

 

Yepp, the architecture, a very popular point of failure in the NA´s business.

That leads me to the next thread, the GA question.

Not sure by now where to start, but I am not in a hurry.