The perfect Passagemaker IV, Equipment

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by apex1, Sep 3, 2010.


Please choose after reading the threads! multiple choice possible.

  1. I need a second Radar

    8 vote(s)
  2. One Radar is enough

    7 vote(s)
  3. A intergrated bridge system would be nice

    10 vote(s)
  4. Inmarsat is a must on passages (how would I post on

    7 vote(s)
  5. I am fine with SSB radio at sea and shouting in port.

    2 vote(s)
  6. A bus system is sensible and desired

    11 vote(s)
  7. Aircondition in all rooms

    6 vote(s)
  8. AC in sleeping quarters only

    5 vote(s)
  9. AC in living quarters only

    3 vote(s)
  10. Walk in fridge/freeze is a must

    4 vote(s)
  11. A household fridge is enough, I like my beer lukewarm

    6 vote(s)
  12. Hydraulic stabilizers are my choice (for Trawler)

    7 vote(s)
  13. The Trawler does fine with paravanes

    3 vote(s)
  14. I need a sternthruster

    1 vote(s)
  15. first forgotten item

    3 vote(s)
  16. second

    3 vote(s)
Multiple votes are allowed.
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    FAST FRED Senior Member

    On our small 90/90 (33ft) we used a simple cooling system in warmer areas.

    The hull above the WL is Airex , so modestly insulated, below the WL it is solid heat conducting glass.

    The drill was a set of sun covers to shade the deck , so the interior temp would be as close to outside air temp as reasonable.

    The cooler air in the bilge would fill the interior up to the height of the opening ports in the cabin.

    Since the water was usually cooler than the outside air , day time living below was quire comfortable.

    Energy used ?, pull the rug from the grating to allow the cold air to fill the hull.

  2. mydauphin
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    mydauphin Senior Member

    Yeah, I am working on some DC fans, solar powered moving air from bilge up and hot air pipe up the the mast to take warm air out. These passive system will help.
  3. Wynand N
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    Wynand N Retired Steelboatbuilder

    Beautiful boats both :cool:

    The tragedy is that I had never stepped onto one of these, let alone afford one. I'm out of my comfort zone here...
    Perhaps I can BS on this - relax Richard, I meant Bull ****, not the other:D :D
  4. dskira

    dskira Previous Member

    As for the windlass I suggest a Reid.

    Two anchors through howse pipes. Larges stainless steel pates on the sides on the hull to protect it against the anchors.

    Oversize cleat not only in the bow and aft deck but in the side too.

    And a large locker at the end of the deck house to store all the deck furniture and cushions. this locker must have a very good ventilation. Forgotten in almost all yacht.

    In the interior, the headroom should not be too high, so some kid of rails can be put on the overhead for safety in bad sea. You can hold on them and walk safely, and not been projected from one side to the other side of the saloon. Some research on aesthetic of these rails should be done, to be a nice inclusion.

    The sole of the galley should have a scupper going to the deck, so it can be washed with a hose, like the deck. If the galley is on the lower deck, the water goes in the grey water tank.

  5. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    Nice additions Daniel,
    thank you!

    Windlass will be "Steen" on the larger, "Maxwell" on the smaller boat.

    Deck lkr. is a common problem, never enough space.

    Agree, a boat without cleats to set a spring is a PITA.

    Grabrails overhead are mandatory in a wide saloon.

    Yepp, the galley needs to be hosed down sometimes, a nice feature. And it needs to have a massive wooden floor! Only wood stays free of mold and bacteria due to the lignin content. All the plastic crap and tiles build up a biosphere for unwelcome critters.

  6. dskira

    dskira Previous Member

    I didn't know this company.

    A Steen windlass.

  7. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    Right Daniel.

    You can confident call the rest 3rd class!

    I have a Steen rudder machine on one steam tug, built 1903, never serviced, never even touched, except bearings.
    As you know, the rudder machine is the hardest worker on every steamer.

    Quality unsurpassed.
  8. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    This has to be one of the funniest things I've seen on the internet in a long time! Bravo! :D
  9. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    Sure enough some others will call me rude again, even for that.

    Any thoughts on the eqipment question?
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  10. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    No heated debate here, I am impressed.

    I thought that just the radar question alone would make a few pages of pro and con.
  11. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Wood Butcher

    No debate! Dreadful. As much as I like a good debate, here I can only observe.

    Still waiting.

    Still waiting.

    Where is everyone?
  12. TeddyDiver
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    TeddyDiver Gollywobbler

  13. apex1

    apex1 Guest

  14. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Wood Butcher

    No posts since 9-16-2010, and no espresso machine either?

  15. srimes
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    srimes Senior Member

    there were. they just disappeared.
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