the Cost of Cruising

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  1. brian eiland
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    This was recently posted on another forum by a thoughtful, knowledgeable gentleman who just recently completed a world cruise on a catamaran.

     
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    You could simply forgo the expensive electronics and have kerosene lamps. I cruised in several boats with no electrics except for running lights. Two of them with kerosene running lights. Water makers are a large expense and work, collect rain water. He contradicts his #1 statement.
    A million dollar catamaran is in a different budget range than me, therefore I've cruised on a shoestring.
     
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    This makes the Wharram cats and what he calls appropriate technology all the more appealing. Everything old is new again, I see even hardware manufacturers like Harken etc are using rope strops on blocks, deadeyes and lashings essentially instead of turnbuckles with more modern materials.
     
  4. Phil Christieso
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    We have been cruising since 1994. Lynda worked in banking and keeps account of all spending. Our average costs today is $13,000 US per year over the last 8 years
    and 40,000 NM. For vessel details check out Windora. The quality of the boat's systems and equipment are essential to keeping the costs down.For a break down of spending ask Lynda.
     
  5. luxuryyachts
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    I agree with you
     
  6. brian eiland
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    I saw this vessel up in Lunenberg NS this summer,...Spirit of Bermuda
    ....and SPIRIT OF BERMUDA (MMSI: 310518000) Ship Photos | AIS Marine Traffic https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos/of/ships/shipid:371366/#forward

    She had some interesting rig ideas that I may detail later on in a new subject thread,...combination of old and new technology
     
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    dsigned O.R.C. Hunter

    Considering a decent apartment in most places in the us is going to run $1000 +, this isn't that bad.
     
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    Sure , the technology approach by Wharram has appeal, but they are amazingly cramped designs.
     
  9. brian eiland
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    I don't think you are comparing apples to apples. He never included the cost of dockage, etc
     
  10. Phil Christieso
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    There is sum mariner costs in our cruising history ask Lynda for details.
    The secret to low dockage cost is to own and interest looking wooden boat and very good looking.
    This has given us free dockage all over the world.
     
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    That doesn't consider the initial investment to buy the boat. If you own the apartment, there would be no rent to pay.
     
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    Down below they are, but hopefully you have the right conditions to make use of the big deck space.
     
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    Not really. The under 40 ft are just open deck, no enclosed shelter for the helms person. This is especially important for multi-hulls, as there tends to be more spray coming from the bows. The number of ugly Wharrams that have had self designed deck shelter I have seen in these colder conditions is incredible, as opposed to the inbuilt streamlined shapes for more modern designs.
     
  14. dsigned
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    Well, most people in the US don't own their homes outright. Most who "own" their homes have a mortgage they pay. And similarly, if you own, $1000 a month is a relatively inexpensive mortgage (though they can go pretty low). And usually, when you buy a house, you have to put a certain amount as down payment (e.g. $10000), so I'd actually say it might even be more similar to owning a home than renting (if you're talking the US: I don't know how it works other places).
     

  15. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    About 30% of Americans actually OWN (no mortgage) their own home. I own mine, as well as other properties with only one mortgage that the rent covers 3 fold. This is also a function of age. At this point in my life I'm supposed to own my home, assuming I did reasonable planning.

    Some like the Wharram approuch, but I've found them generally slow and of modest accommodation, compairtivly against modern designs. Some like the Spray approuch, which does have considerable accommodation, though true pigs at sea, unless running the trades for weeks on end. Again it's very subjective debate, with none being more correct than any other. Personally, I'll want more performance from a cat than the Wharrams offer and I'd only berth a Spray as a party barge, if I was forced to own one.
     
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