The Climate Change Hoax

Come on guys give it up stop instigating by using opposite thinking intelligence. There is no way most of you guys whose intelligent, informative postings i've read over the years will ever convince me you are not just pulling legs here. Troy these guys are just "havin ya on old man".

 

Well, there are even scientists that claim that global warming will cause more asteroid impacts. Now, another thing to worry about! Drive your car and cause more asteroid impacts.

Read about this latest rationalization here:

http://www.ecoenquirer.com/global-warming-asteroid.htm

 

No, not a prediction; a postdiction. People take vague mutterings from ancient texts (or not so ancient texts), find something that sort-of matches in current affairs, and then smugly announce that a 2000 year-old prophecy has marvelously been fulfilled.

 

Much as I hate to say it, I think most of them are dead serious.

 

And others look at the fulfillment and ignore it entirely.

Ironically, that same book said it was written to confound the 'wise.'

 

The attitudes expressed in this thread likely conform to the stereotypes discussed here:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2011/11/16/3366790.htm

" Perhaps most relevant to present public debate are threats to people's "worldviews" — the very fundamental beliefs people hold about how the world should be organised.

Worldviews come in many shades and forms, but one prominent distinction — popularised by Professor Dan Kahan at Yale University - is between people whose worldview is "hierarchical-individualistic" and those whose worldview is "egalitarian-communitarian".

Hierarchical-individualistic people (HI from here on) believe rights, duties, goods, and offices should be distributed differentially and on the basis of people's own decisions without collective interference or assistance.

Egalitarian-communitarian (EC) people, by contrast, believe rights and goods should be distributed more equally and society should bear partial responsibility for securing the conditions of individual flourishing.

Like all binary classifications, the distinction between HI and EC worldviews lacks nuance and oversimplifies the complexity of human worldviews. Nonetheless, the distinction is extremely powerful and permits prediction of people's attitudes towards numerous scientific issues.

Perhaps not surprisingly, HI individuals are more likely to resist acceptance of climate science than EC individuals.

Why?

Because implicit in the message we get from climate science is the need to alter the way we currently do business. The spectre of regulation looms large, and so does the (imaginary) World Government or other interventions — such as multilateral agreements — that are anathema to the notion that individuals, not governments or societies, determine their own fate.

To manage that threat to an HI worldview, the fundamental laws of physics underlying climate science must be denied. The greenhouse properties of CO2 may have been known for 150 years, but those indubitable physical facts cannot compete with the need to protect free enterprise from the threats posed by socialism, communism, Nazism, Green "watermelons", a corrupt IPCC, Greenpeace, the all-powerful solar-energy lobby, to name but a few of the imaginary monsters and enemies that are awakened by the peer-reviewed evidence. "

 

+1. "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mr Efficiency again."

 

One of the threads woven into our modern American world view is an idealized vision of the rugged individualist out west, who stood on his own hind legs and didn't need help from anyone. I have my share of that attitude, and it isn't necessarily a bad thing - unless it gets out of hand, and people start thinking they're the only ones who count in their world, and they don't owe anyone anything.

My dad always said that if you're healthy enough, smart enough and lucky enough to make your own way in the world, you owe the world something in return. Because none of those three things are completely your own doing. They've been given to you, whether you think the giver was God or just the luck of the draw.

And while the West may have been explored and opened up by rugged individualists, to a large degree it was settled and developed by people who placed a high premium on cooperation and having each others backs.

 

Taking a child's favourite toy away because you perceive it may be dangerous is never well received. Giving the toy back, plus another one to play with is sure to make you popular ! So it is that the opposition party in the upcoming Australian federal election has pledged to abandon the existing carbon tax (a fairly tame affair that is more a nod to "greenies" than anything else) but wait for this........leave in place a monetary compensation package intended to cushion the effect of the tax on people less able to afford it. That is just ludicrous. I doubt any meaningful action on CO2 emissions will take place as a result of government edicts in a democracy, it is just political suicide to do so.

 

No, it is a PRE-diction. Keep your eye on the sky. HI type.

 

I am glad you understand. How's the wood canoe doing?

 

<HI message too short to post? nonsense.

<Hi was discreet and succinct!

 

Hi Yo hows that environmental friendly electric powered boat project coming along --- Now what was that "succinct" bit of info. (Christ I had to look that up) ---Geo.

 

Hierarchical-individualistic people (HI)

When I tried to post
<HI

Wouldn't let me...post too short.

So I refuted the program limiting me.

I must be getting senile, arguing with a computer.

My boats project is temporarily on hold.

I got a captaincy after 2 years of involuntary retirement. So making money is order of the day.

And renewing my wifes visa.

Simple if not married to me, but instead of giving spouses of citizens any preference, they immigration authorities make it more difficult.

Not law or regulation but "internal policies) that state "she might use the visa to hide in the USA".

My contention is all immigration officials should surrender their driver licenses based on the logic of that internal policy.

They might speed! arghhh!

 

Good for you Captain, It's always great to be back in the saddle again. I too had a bit of luck in making some later life money. Fell into a nice Project management job overseeing construction of a quazi gated community development' including a nice little marina. As for immigration, along with many government offices common sense decisions seem to be a factor controlled by the protection of one's *** regardless. It's so refreshing when a supervisor is summoned and you hear logic. The bright side of course we are still allowed to question and appeal vigorously. Enjoy your return behind the wheel ---Geo.