The Climate Change Hoax

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  1. RHough
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    During the Eocene Era, what was the global population of living things? Were there a greater number of species sharing the planet then or now? What did they do that caused the earth to cool so much?

    Is this all about humans thinking that they have some right to exist? Is there any evidence to suggest that the earth depends on human life for anything? That the net effect of humans is positive? Was it climatic anomaly that allowed humans to evolve? What is the "Normal" temperature of the planet and what is the "Normal" level of CO2? If humans cannot adapt to life on the planet under "Normal" conditions, will the passing of humans from the face of the earth hurt the planet in any way?

    It really bothers me when people are alarmed about changes that might not be good for humans. IMO the question should be will the changes be good for the planet. Just why does human survival take precedence over the survival of other species? The planet got along fine before humans. Humans evolved, just like every other life form evolved, and it is likely that other life forms will evolve to become dominant after the human era has past. What we "want" has very little meaning on a planetary, galactic, or universal scale. That we don't want to move and adapt to change is a damn selfish attitude.

    IMO humans have no more control over climate change than the species that lived during the Eocoene Era did. IMO humans don't want to think that maybe the damn universe does not revolve around them and they assign to themselves a false sense of great importance.

    I have a boat, more water and less ice sounds good to me. :)
     
  2. Kay9
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    Um, Did you just argue FOR human extinction????
     
  3. wardd
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    extinctions happen when climate changes happen
     
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  5. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Hopefully so....
     
  6. mark775

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    "most scientists agree with the law of gravity" - and most scientist agree that climates change. Now, what causes gravity again?
    "extinctions happen when climate changes happen" - Off the top of you head, name a couple besides viruses, the great auk, passenger pigeon and dodo that were caused in any way by man.
    People trying to diabolize man will, when discussing the Holocene extinction say things like "starting approximately 100,000 years ago, and coinciding with an increase in the number and range of humans, species extinctions have increased to a rate estimated at 100—1000 times that in the recent fossil record." What a pissy attitude - I say use the place and build a better opportunity for future generations to develop solutions to unforeseen happenings. I don't see eating algae and riding a bike to a decade of post-secondary education helping solve big problems in the future. Go build something big and powerful. Let it puke carbon. Let it make clouds of water-vapor like a Saturn Five Rocket. Sell a bunch of 'em. THAT will fix the world.
     
  7. wardd
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    reportedly about 50,000 years ago an ice age reduced the human population to a few thousand maybe 5,000, we almost went extinct
     
  8. mark775

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    Humans causing that is as plausible as humans causing climate change today - I'll give you that.
    The gravity question is what I really want to hear answered...
     
  9. mark775

    mark775 Guest

    Yet more good news!
    obama_approval_index_december_14_2009.jpg
    Pole numbers dropping like a Mooney full of doctors!
    Jus' for kicks, let's get this guy into the single digits! Woohoo!
    More exclaimation points than I've used in my life!
    !!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. masalai
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    masalai masalai

  11. wardd
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    mark, any tall buildings near you?
     
  12. troy2000
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    The main thrust of my argument isn't that we should vote on science and research. It's that the odds of the majority of scientists being in on a conspiracy to deliberately deceive the world are about zero.

    That was the original topic: the claim that there's some kind of worldwide hoax.
     
  13. troy2000
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    That is a very strange post.
     
  14. dskira

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    Quite wise :)
     

  15. dskira

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    Why fearing the science? Are we asking again if the earth is round and we fear the answer?
     
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