Super Foiler Grand Prix 2018-starts February

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    And where can I see the full race? :)
     
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    from"multihulls" newsletter-SuperFoiler port stern breaks off!!---
     
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    From catsailingnews.com live stream replay:
    start about 11min in----
     
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    Having watched these boats in their initial races, I'm convinced that the SuperFoiler is extraordinary. However, it seems that the myth that foiling is only for extraordinary athletes- that began with the Moth- is being reinforced. That may not be a good thing and is most certainly wrong. New foilers are being developed where light air foiling capability is emphasized and top end speed de-emphasized. These new boats are being designed to be easy and fun to sail for the average sailor with much less likelihood of a crash. And a crash-if any- would be much "softer" than is obvious with a Moth or SuperFoiler.

    Quant 23 production boat.jpg
     
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    From catsailingnews.com Sunday: start about 15 min in
     
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    Interesting bit from www.superfoiler.com with more tech data to come from Morrelli and Melvin via www.catsailingnews.com later this week:

    The Design
    Conceptually progressive, the SuperFoiler is designed from the foils up. Departing traditional limitations, the SuperFoiler is controlled by sophisticated electronic systems (created by a leading Aerospace Engineering firm) enabling the crew to adjust the pitch of the foils and thus the flight stability of the craft. The SF platform incorporates an aerodynamic cross-section “wing” to generate lift and aerodynamic efficiency. It is expected to result in the fastest course racing machine of its size in the world.
     
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    SuoerFoiler Series--Geelong:
     
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    SuperFoiler-Geelong Day 2:
     
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    SuperFoiler---Gold Coast--- spectacular capsize at 4:17 in!!! Lots of close calls....and wind.
     
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    Hi Doug
    I watched a fair bit of the series and feel that the boats are pretty terrible. It seems as though the foils are too small and the sailors have heaps of trouble keeping stable. I can't see why they don't use wand systems to keep level like moths. I don't get foiling but if absolutely fab sailors look like amateurs then I think the design is a dud. It looks a bit like watching C grade football played with a slippery ball in the rain. I wouldn't even be able to sail one of these at all.

    I liked the AC but these things are nowhere near as stable as AC cats or Moths. I don't care if they go 15 or 13 knots, but flying would be nice, close racing nicer. I would like to see closer racing, with different winners. I like watching Nathan, Goobs and Gashby but some more leaders would be nice.

    cheers

    Phil
     

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    Phil from what I can tell the boats were designed to be relatively unstable with foil angle of incidence controlled by the skipper with buttons on the hiking sticks. Manual control is pretty cool but takes plenty of time to get right. These guys are just starting out and it seems to me they're doing pretty well for so little experience on such a difficult boat to get right. Given another year they'll be a lot more experienced on the boat-IF they have another year.
    An interesting thing about these boats is that the mainfoil spacing is fairly close(proportionately) to the proposed TNZ AC boats. The frequency of mainhull contact with the water is bearable on these one design boats and will get better as the crews improve but on an AC boat they'd probably want to do something about it.
    Good to hear from you Phil. Did you watch it up close and personal or on TV or both? I'd love to see these things in person.
     
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