Sub 20' pocket cruising (cabin) sailboats

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by lewisboats, Sep 2, 2013.

  1. El_Guero

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  2. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Found this boat here . . . - - (the text in the quote is my attempt to translate the source)

    Cheers,
    Angel

    P.S. - Some more here ---> Jean-Louis Noir (in French) ---> Nuits Blanches
     
  3. philSweet
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    There is a huge collection of data dumped at http://sailboatdata.com/

    also here at http://www.pocketcruiserguide.com/

    My personal reqmts for microcuising are.

    1. Beachable and able to launch though some small surf, like three feet. Since not all beaches are soft sand, I like twin bilgeboards and a stout rudder to tripod the boat on if you beach in a stony area. Also helps with bottom painting and you can off-load the boat from the trailer.

    2. Able to sleep on, but intended as a camp cruiser. That suggests a queen air mattress for the 16'ers and bunks for the 20 footers. The air mattress types need a tent for (part of) the cockpit for bug protection.

    3. I like a pram bow on anything smaller than 20'

    4. self tending jib as an option is a must. The trick of micro cruising is in not wearing yourself out sailing, and not having to rely on the stinkpot for every channel. I could tack up a 50' wide channel without a care in the world.

    5. A bombproof little kicker. My favorite is the Johnso-rude two cylinder 4 hp CR3 block motors. They run like a sewing machine. They need little more than a screwdriver and a pair of pliers to teardown and put back together. Even the 2.5 hp version will draw from a remote tank and you can run one of those for a week off 12 gallons.

    Build the ends strong. Forget lightness, you're talking about boats with a D/l of 400-600. That may sound ridiculous to bigger boat people, but that's how short cruisers pan out. My 16'er often departed with a load of over half a ton. She could daysail five adults, or plane out at 16 knots with just me aboard and trapping.

    My favorites are Peep Hen, Marsh Hen, Compac 16, Pelican, Precision 18, and the little Seaward Fox (they have a new 19'er I've not seen, I'm thinking of the older ones.) The Rhodes 22 is sweet, but is a keel boat. Same for the older Rhodes 21. The Marsh Cats are excellent. So is the Nonsuch 22 if you are bigger than a hobbit and not wanting to campcruise. West Wight Potter 19 also.
     
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  4. Tiny Turnip
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    I have a Winklebrig trailer sailer, a 16ft pocket gaffer with a topsail, designed by Eric Bergquist. Displaces 650kg and carries 170 square feet of sail. Twin bilge plates make the cabin (quarter berths and a v berth) more practical than a centerplate. the plates don't lock so it doesn't dry out level, however, and although we have slept 4 on board for a couple of nights, you have to move about very slowly! Its a very pretty, nostalgic boat, a miniature version of the Cornish Shrimper. I love it very much. It is, however, slow and rather stubborn and temperamental to sail, and I have had far more jollies for my money from my 16 foot Solway Dory cruising trimaran - designed for beach hopping and camping, which cost less than half as much as the Winklebrig, and goes more than twice as fast.

    There's loads of information and pictures here: http://www.jegsweb.co.uk/boats/winklebrig/winklebrig1.htm
     
  5. Doug Lord
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    Doug Lord Flight Ready

    I'd sure appreciate seeing a picture of your trimaran when you have time.
     
  6. El_Guero

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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

  8. Doug Lord
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    Thanks, guys!
     
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  11. whitepointer23

    whitepointer23 Previous Member

    beautiful boat, bet you get a lot of admirers at the boat ramp.
     
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