Structural Design & Scantling with ISO 12215

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  1. TANSL
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    When, please, after 2019? Has it already come into force?
    Of course, general procedures cannot change. What has changed are the design stresses, the design pressures, the minimum acceptable values, the way of dividing the ship into zones, the formula to calculate the properties of composite materials, ... that is, everything that It can change, it has changed.
     
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    Just copying this sentence before it is deleted ... :D
     
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    You know them all.;)
     
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    Ooops! That has now appeared! It seems somebody is trying to catch back ... :D

    By the way, that sentence is wrong :(
     
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    What daring is ignorance!

    By the way, the fact that you look for personnel outside your organization to design a simple center console says very little in favor of your experts. I'm sure your experts won't like to know that
    you are doing that.
     
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    Copying before it's gone ... ;)
     
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    Try this:

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    Yes this was the old standard, 2008 and its variations.
     
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    Thanks. Actually, this was the question from my engineer, who could not find direct info in the standard. The boat being designed has transverse stiffening (commercial canal boat), so many panels are side/bottom.

    For the central console boats. Yes we do. Some of those we have designed:

     
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    That quote, is from the 2018 edition.
     
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    Yes, thanks, tha is variation of 2008 standard.
    2019 is completely new.
     
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    @Alik, to clarify: my comment (here above) is about the ISO:12215-5:2019, corrected version 2023-11 (released at the end of last year), compared to the ISO:12215-5:2019, version of July 2020. There, you will find point "A.7 Calculation of the scantlings of a panel or stiffener across several areas," which might be what you are looking for.
     
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    Congratulations, they look great! The project would be a 28 ft monohull centre console for fishing. We are somehow overloaded and we might be looking to outsource part of the work. It's nice to know you have experience with it.
     

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    Thanks I will get this one...

    ISO 12215-5:2019 https://www.iso.org/standard/69552.html
    There is no such update... Any other source?

    Also unable to find any errata to this standard in public access. But sure there are some. Or it is a 'trade secret'? Weird how these standards are being sold and maintained... Hmm.
     
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