Stiffness vs Tensile Strength in Foam Sandwich Construction?

Discussion in 'Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building' started by Iridian, May 16, 2021.

  1. rxcomposite
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    I prefer the Heuristic approach to optimize. Optimize is a verb and it means action. Going round and round in a mulberry tree.

    We need to be practical because design is always a compromise.
     
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  2. TANSL
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    You are quite right, gentlemen, when you speak of "optimize" you have to specify what is meant by that word, which some people despise (who knows why). I like, I have to admit, constructive criticism.
    Having said all the above, it should be emphasized that when you are talking about a "light" structure, you do not have to be very intelligent to understand the meaning of "optimize".
    In my opinion there are two possible "optimizations" speaking of the structure of a ship, the weight and the construction process / assembly hours. Choose the one you want according to the meaning of this thread.
    And, if you will allow me, one last question, when a designer is projecting a structure, does he really not think about optimizing his structure (whatever the meaning is at that moment)? I think he does think so, and if he doesn't, what does he think about?
     
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    @Mr Efficiency I think your post # 54 raises a very interesting topic, is an aluminum hull lighter than a PRF one?
    A 3 mm thick aluminum panel weighs around 8.1 kg / m2. An equivalent GRP panel would weigh, if I'm not mistaken, about 1.4 kg / m2 plus the weight of the resin. Let's say in total 3 kg / m2.
    (By equivalent I mean the one that, due to its thickness and mechanical properties, could replace the aluminum panel in a given structure. I hope I am well understood and if not, no problem, I will try to explain myself better.)
     
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    Don't try to confuse us with data and fact. We were on a roll.
     
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    Sorry @fallguy, it was an innocent comment on a topic that I found interesting. Never before has a thread drifted down unpredictable paths. I am guilty, I admit it.
     
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  6. Iridian
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    @TANSL
    In tensile strength and stiffness maybe. But I'm pretty sure the aluminum counterpart would handle point loading far better.
     
  7. waikikin
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    Optimizing used to be fairing out skin fittings and other minor enhancements in the hope that the boat would sail faster..
     
  8. TANSL
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    That is probably optimizing the hull shapes. Nothing to do with optimizing a structure, however you understand the word "optimize".
     

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    Yes TANSL, thanks, I have a good understanding of optimism.
     
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