Some one has to start it, Americas default.

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by Frosty, Jul 29, 2011.

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  1. masalai
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    masalai masalai

  2. Ad Hoc
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    Ad Hoc Naval Architect

    Sorry, but i think you need to get out more.

    For the most democratic "political" system in the world, it is Switzerland:
    http://www.democracy-building.info/switzerlands-political-system.html

    For the most democractic country in the world, its Norway after knocking Sweden off the no.1 spot which it occupied for many years. (US ranks 17th):
    http://graphics.eiu.com/PDF/Democracy_Index_2010_web.pdf
     
  3. hoytedow
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    Every year the Democrats are in power, we become less democratic and more under the tyrant's heel.
     
  4. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    In a two political party system, (and even those such as Australia where there are some independent and minority parties), the two majors are a choice between Tweedledum or Tweedledumber, as "left and Right" political positions are readily interchangeable - I fail to see the reason for the strengths in opinion/support as the "public perception" of the differences offered or presented... Bu*l*h*t baffles brains seems to me the only explanation...

    Most politicians are 'run' by vested interests, or polls, - which are biased at best, to meet preconceived responses from the polled respondents, by the pollsters...

    JUST IN... This, if it is correct could really explode in the GEC... http://www.gata.org/node/10223 "'As many as 20 owners for each bullion bank gold bar, Rickards tells King World News"' and Rickards is a respected and knowledgable global 'player'...
     
  5. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    there are no parties, its all a sham, the only difference between the republitards and the democraps is what pretend agenda the corporate oligarchy thinks will benefit them in the present economic environment.

    Cheers
     
  6. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    You know a dictatorship don't sound too bad right now --if we could only get the right dictator. At least we would get decisions and get stuff done.

    Allowing people( the common man) in the street to vote for what he thinks is best does'nt seem to work --(see posts here) Thing is one is right and one is wrong--thats for sure but who.

    America is no longer triple A it has a 1.3 trillion defacit,-that means it spends 1.3 trillion more than it earns per year, now how dumb is that. The fact that they have any credit rating all all surprises me, the utter farce in the government show something is wrong --I don't know what but i'lle bet you get a reduction again soon.

    Another shocker is the Australian PM said "Oh its all right its just some ones opinion"!!

    It is just an opinion but a very important indicator,- Fiche and Moody's will have to agree or the whole rating system will be pointless.

    Until the situation gets the attention is deserves this will not go away and US has been down graded not only for having a deficit but for not handling it properly. it has grown over the last what--10 years and no sign of slowing down even.

    Thing is we all know that in less that one days time billions will be wiped off the stock markets around the world and theres not a damn thing you can do about it.
     
  7. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Oh yes there is, - - Lots... - - But none of "it" you do, will do you anything beneficial in the big picture of things :eek: :eek: :p :D

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/exe...llion-in-stockmarket-rout-20110807-1ih7n.html
    "'Slim pickings: World's richest man loses $6.7 billion in stockmarket rout..."'
     
  8. IMP-ish
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    IMP-ish powerboater

    Like young joe shmoe on the street who buys a new house, lakeside cottage, new car after new car, business or boats... on mortgage and loan. How many stick to what they can pay with cash now?
     
  9. Frosty

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    No mas,--if you have money in the stock market you wont be able to get on the phone fast enough, it will be put in the computer to sell and it will be in a queue. And what would be the benefit of saving your money --who cares, they are all saving there own, they will not be selling they will be dumping.

    You will receive an SMS --shares sold 11-14 AM thank you for dealing with us--

    Joes shmo in a situation like that would be bankrupt and never allowed to borrow money again. How he could get that far into dept is not possible.
    But if we must,-- his assets would be taken away and auctioned, his credibility would be none existant.
     
  10. Mr Efficiency
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    Any historical candidates you can nominate for the 'right dictator' ? :(
     
  11. ancient kayaker
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    - do you know a country with a AAA rating that has a dictator? Not even the Middle East countries that are soaked with oil have that.


    Franco is about the closest but I am not an admirer. Credit where due though, he hauled Spain out of a mess and kept it out of WW2 - more than you can say for a lot of so-called democracies and handed it back to a more representative government in reasonably good condition, although that government and its bankers haven't done any better a job than in the USA.
     
  12. rasorinc
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    There were so many benign loveable ones going way back to really old history such as Gengus Kahn. Frosty--no dictator is ever missed by those he controlled. Good dictators
    are only in Hollywood writers imagination.
     
  13. IMP-ish
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    IMP-ish powerboater

    Look how much people have on their mortgages compared to their annual income :!:

    Even bankruptcy doesn't ruin credit as long as you'd think. 5 years and many are borrowing again.
     
  14. Frosty

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    Rome had a few good ones and the Sheik of Dubai does'nt do too badly. Don't get me wrong but if comparable with the terrible mess on Capital hill anything must be looked at.

    Normally I coul'dt give a flying fart about a country going down because of its own stupidity and complacency but your taking me down with you, and I think that thought eckoes all round the world.

    If it was'nt for the financial implications I would like to sit back with a beer and watch.

    And if you want to bring in the war well thanks --how many times do I have to say thanks and thanks again.

    And yes im a bit peeved today, I stand to loose a lot of money tomorrow gentlemen.

    Ive no pension no health insurance just me and my money. God bless America.

    If you could have just made this very very simple decision a few months back you could have avoided all this, I know smarter 7 year olds.
     
  15. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    I think youve found the problem!!
     

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