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  1. hoytedow
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    What he said.
     
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    I read the online Encyclopedia Britannica article on the Federal Reserve System. Nowhere in it did I read that the entities listed above are the owners of the 12 banks. Perhaps you can show me where it says that? That list was originally written by the anti-Semitic author Eustace Mullin back in 1983. He actually only claimed they owned the New York Federal Reserve Bank, but claimed that gave them enough power to control the entire system. Of course, he provided no proof.

    Mullins made his living promoting conspiracy theories about Jews and Jewish bankers, especially the Rothschild family. He isn't exactly a reliable source....:D

    I hate to repeat myself, but repeat I must....
    That's pretty clear -- and it pretty much puts paid to the silly notion that the banks are somehow owned by a handful of sinister foreigners instead.....
     
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    Cause the babary pirates had vacation homes in somalia. kept swapping bases. Britain thought they wereall wiped out, and couple months later, they were back, well rested and eagar!

    :D
     
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    Hey--if any country ever came to nearly owning or being in control of the whole world it was England.

    We owned America, Australia, Canada, south Africa, Burma, Malaysia, plus a load of little places I can be bothered with, Barbados, New zealand, Hong kong, Trinidad, Gibraltar, Zimbabwe etc etc.
     
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    What he said is completely wrong.
    That's a complete fairy tale, Yobarnacle; nothing in Executive Order No. 11110 did any of that. It was issued to address problems that might be encountered while leaving the silver standard, and had nothing to do with cutting the power of the Fed.

    Kennedy's executive order was simply part of the process he set in motion to eventually stop issuing silver certificates -- because the industrial price had risen higher than the government's fixed price for silver, and our silver reserves were flying out the door.

    You should really vet your sources at least a little.....
    Got all that? The Cliff Notes version: Executive Order No. 11110 simply transferred the President's power to authorize silver certificates to the Treasurer, so the treasurer could issue them on a temporary basis -- if needed -- while the country transitioned off the silver standard. It did nothing to interfere with the Fed's power to issue money.

    It was a temporary measure, rendered moot by the laws Congress passed almost immediately. Laws Kennedy had requested, by the way..... his death changed nothing, because the laws were already in effect.

    Oh: the quotes are from Wikipedia.
     
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    American politics --yawn doomed any way.

    This thread is like a guy on the dock in Belfast with a flat cap shouting come back Titanic, you are going to sink.
     
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    Can't be bothered with a little place like New Zealand?
    The Kiwis are going to hunt you down!
    :D
     
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    By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:
    SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended --

    (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):

    "(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and

    (b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.

    SEC. 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.

    JOHN F. KENNEDY
    THE WHITE HOUSE,
    June 4, 1963



    Read more at the American Presidency Project: John F. Kennedy: Executive Order 11110 - Amendment of Executive Order No. 10289 as Amended, Relating to the Performance of Certain Functions Affecting the Department of the Treasury http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=59049#ixzz1rwbJcfbn
     
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    Executive Order 10289--Providing for the performance of certain functions of the President by the Secretary of the Treasury

    Source: The provisions of Executive Order 10289 of Sept. 17, 1951, appear at 16 FR 9499, 3 CFR, 1949-1953 Comp., p. 787, unless otherwise noted.

    By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 1 of the act of August 8, 1950, 64 Stat. 419 (Public Law 673, 81st Congress), and as President of the United States, it is ordered as follows:

    1. The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby designated and empowered to perform the following-described functions of the President without the approval, ratification, or other action of the President:
    (a) The authority vested in the President by section 1 of the act of August 1, 1914, c. 223, 38 Stat. 609, 623, as amended (19 U.S.C. 2), (1) to rearrange, by consolidation or otherwise, the several customs-collection districts, (2) to discontinue ports of entry by abolishing the same and establishing others in their stead, and (3) to change from time to time the location of the headquarters in any customs-collection district as the needs of the service may require.
    (b) The authority vested in the President by section 1 of the Anti-Smuggling Act of August 5, 1935, c. 438, 49 Stat. 517 (19 U.S.C. 1701), (1) to find and declare that at any place or within any area on the high seas adjacent to but outside customs waters any vessel or vessels hover or are being kept off the coast of the United States and that, by virtue of the presence of any such vessel or vessels at such place or within such area, the unlawful introduction or removal into or from the United States of any merchandise or person is being, or may be, occasioned, promoted, or threatened, (2) to find and declare that certain waters on the high seas are in such proximity to such vessel or vessels that such unlawful introduction or removal of merchandise or persons may be carried on by or to or from such vessel or vessels, and (3) to find and declare that, within any customs-enforcement area, the circumstances no longer exist which gave rise to the declaration of such area as a customs-enforcement area.
    (c) The authority vested in the President by section 1 of the Act of August 26, 1985, Public Law 98-89, 97 Stat. 510 (46 U.S.C. 3101); to suspend the provisions of law requiring the inspection of foreign-built vessels admitted to American registry.
    (d) The authority vested in the President by section 5 of the act of May 28, 1908, c. 212, 35 Stat. 425, as amended (46 U.S.C. Appendix 104), to determine (as a prerequisite to the extension of reciprocal privileges by the Commissioner of Customs) that yachts used and employed exclusively as pleasure vessels and belonging to any resident of the United States are allowed to arrive at and depart from any foreign port and to cruise in the waters of such port without entering or clearing at the custom-house thereof and without the payment of any charges for entering or clearing, dues, duty per ton, tonnage taxes, or charges for cruising licenses.
    (e) The authority vested in the President by section 2 of the act of March 24, 1908, c. 96, 35 Stat. 46 (46 U.S.C. Appendix 134), to name the hospital ships to which section 1 of the said act shall apply to indicate the time when the exemptions thereby provided for shall begin and end.
    (f) The authority vested in the President by section 4223 of the Revised Statutes, as amended (46 U.S.C. Appendix 141), (1) to declare that--upon satisfactory proof being given by the government of any foreign nation that no discriminating duties of tonnage or imposts are imposed or levied in the ports of such nation upon vessels wholly belonging to citizens of the United States, or upon the produce, manufactures, or merchandise imported in the same from the United States or from any foreign country--the foreign discriminating duties of tonnage and impost within the United States are suspended and discontinued, so far as respects the vessels of such foreign nation, and the produce, manufactures, or merchandise imported into the United States from such foreign nation, or from any other foreign country, and (2) to suspend in part the operation of section 4219 of the Revised Statutes, as amended (46 U.S.C. Appendix 121), and section IV, J, subsection 1 of the act of October 3, 1913, c. 16, 38 Stat. 195, as amended (46 U.S.C. Appendix 146), so that foreign vessels from a country imposing partial discriminating tonnage duties upon American vessels, or partial discriminating import duties upon American merchandise, may enjoy in our ports the identical privileges which the same class of American vessels and merchandise may enjoy in such country: Provided, that prior to the issuance of an order of the Secretary of the Treasury suspending and discontinuing (wholly or in part) discriminating tonnage duties, imposts, and import duties within the United States, the Department of State shall obtain and furnish to the Secretary of the Treasury the proof required by the said section 4228, as amended as the basis for that order.
    (g) The authority vested in the President by section 3650 of the Internal Revenue Code (26 U.S.C. 3650) to establish convenient collection districts (for the purpose of assessing, levying, and collecting the taxes provided by the internal revenue laws), and from time to time to alter such districts.
    (h) The authority which is now vested in the President by section 2564 (b) of the Internal Revenue Code (26 U.S.C. 2564 (b)), and which on and after January 1, 1955, will be vested in the President by section 4735 (b) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954, to issue, in accordance with the provisions of the said section 2564 (b) or 4735 (b), as the case may be, orders providing for the registration and the imposition of a special tax upon all persons in the Canal Zone who produce, import compound, deal in, dispense, sell, distribute, or give away narcotic drugs.
    (i) The authority vested in the President by Section 5318 of the Revised Statutes, as amended (19 U.S.C. 540), to employ suitable vessels other than Coast Guard cutters in the execution of laws providing for the collection of duties on imports and tonnage;

    [Para. 1 amended by EO 10583 of Dec. 18, 1954, 19 FR 8725, 3 CFR, 1954-1958 Comp., p. 232; EO 10882 of July 18, 1960, 25 FR 6869, 3 CFR, 1959-1963 Comp., p. 413; EO 11110 of June 4, 1963, 28 FR 5605, 3 CFR, 1959-1963 Comp., p. 770; EO 12608 of Sept. 9, 1987, 52 FR 34617, 3 CFR, 1987 Comp., p. 245]

    2. The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby designated and empowered to perform without the approval, ratification, or other action of the President the following functions which have heretofore, under the respective provisions of law cited, required the approval of the President in connection with their performance by the Secretary of the Treasury:
    (a) The authority vested in the Secretary of the Treasury by section 6 of the act of July 8, 1937, c. 444, 50 Stat. 480 (5 U.S.C. 134c), to make rules and regulations necessary for the execution of the functions vested in the Secretary of the Treasury by the said act, as amended.
    (b) [Revoked]
    (c) [Revoked]
    (d) [Revoked]
    (e) The authority vested in the Secretary of the Treasury by section 1 of Title II of the act of June 15, 1917, c. 30, 40 Stat. 220 (50 U.S.C. 191), to make rules and regulations governing the anchorage and movement of any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States.
    (f) [Revoked]

    [Para. 2 amended by EO 11110 of June 4, 1963, 28 FR 5605, 3 CFR, 1959-1963 Comp., p. 770; EO 11825 of Dec. 31, 1974, 40 FR 1003, 3 CFR, 1971-1975 Comp., p. 929; EO 12608 of Sept. 9, 1987, 52 FR 34617, 3 CFR, 1987 Comp., p. 245]

    3. (a) The Secretary of the Treasury and the Postmaster General are hereby designated and empowered jointly to prescribe without the approval of the President regulations, under section 1 of the act of July 8, 1937, c. 444, 50 Stat. 479 (5 U.S.C. 134), governing the shipment of valuables by the executive departments, independent establishments, agencies, wholly-owned corporations, officers, and employees of the United States.
    (b) The Postmaster General is hereby designated and empowered to exercise without the approval, ratification, or other action of the President the authority vested in the President by section 504 (b) of title 18 of the United States Code to approve regulations issued by the Secretary of the Treasury under the authority of the said section 504 (b) (relating to the printing, publishing, or importation, or the making or importation of the necessary plates for such printing or publishing, of postage stamps for philatelic purposes), and to approve any amendment or repeal of any of such regulations by the Secretary of the Treasury.

    [Para. 3 amended by EO 10583 of Dec. 18, 1954, 19 FR 8725, 3 CFR, 1954-1958 Comp., p. 232]

    4. As used in this order, the term "functions" embraces duties, powers, responsibilities, authority, or discretion, and the term "perform" may be construed to mean "exercise".

    5. All actions heretofore taken by the President in respect of the matters affected by this order and in force at the time of the issuance of this order, including regulations prescribed by the President in respect of such matters, shall, except as they may be inconsistent with the provisions of this order, remain in effect until amended, modified, or revoked pursuant to the authority conferred by this order.


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    So according to you, we should have stayed on the brink of war with the most populous country in the world instead? Somehow, that would have prevented them from modernizing their economy and their production capabilities? And then the evil unions wouldn't have given away all the union jobs to China, so the union members could be unemployed or work as hamburger flippers instead?

    [whirrr...click!...buzz..... I'm sorry; that does not compute......]
     
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    Yep...

    If you think we are not on the brink of war with them now you must have a very good view of your meal from last night.
     
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    David Rockefeller, a prominent banker, a former chairman of the board of the CFR [Council of Foreign Relations - ed.], and its current honorary chairman. In his autobiography Memoirs, page 405 [copyright 2002, at Amazon - ed.], Rockefeller said,

    “Some even believe we [Rockefellers] are a part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United states, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure—one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I’m proud of it.”
     

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    David Rockefeller (1991): “We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected THEIR PROMISE OF DISCRETION for almost forty years… It would have been impossible for us to develop OUR PLAN FOR THE WORLD….”
     
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