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  1. Fanie
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    Yes you can. Imagine the US was the only country in the world... would you stop to exist financially ? Of course not.

    Break the dependancy off.
     
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    I'm trying to make sense of that remark, but I can't. The reality is that the US isn't the only country in the world. Our dollars flow in and out of our banks, and spread all over the globe through international trade.

    How, precisely, are we supposed to 'break the dependency'? Stop buying or selling outside our own borders? Sure.... that'll work.
     
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    The Fed determine the worth of your printed $.

    Read why Lincoln was shot. He attempted to break the finacial dependancy off to free the US from financial dependancy (and control).

    The logic lies therein that if you trade positively you can never get more and more debt.
    No one in his right mind trade negatively into bankruptcy.

    It is complicated, nothing stands alone so it would seem like impossible. If it was that simple every one would see it coming and put a stop to it or prevent it. We didn't - and neither did a lot others.

    Half the technique is to dump you in a lot of national junk to keep you buzy and create panic as wel as and especially deviding you against your selves. That is your worst enemy.
     
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    To answer your question takes a lot of answering and reading.

    I'll post some sites and you can follow up to the degree you are interested.


    The dollar is now worth only a nickel of what it was worth 100 years ago.

    In 1911, the relative value of $1 from 2011 ranges from $0.00 to $0.06.

    http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/

    You can compare any two years up to 2011.

    Why is this inflation important? Because that's the "national debt".

    You have already paid it, and are still paying it. By devaluing the dollars you already have saved and are earning.

    The Federal Reserve Bank, owned by private rich individuals and bankers, many are foreigners, the Rothchilds being predominant. They buy freshly minted bills from the US mint for 2 1/2 cents each, Same price for a dollar bill or 10,000 dollar bill. They "loan" this money to the government at interest on the face value. Actually, they buy treasury bills with this "play" money. The money has no backing. It's value is derived from devaluing all the money previously in circulation. Inflation.

    Here's a quote from Rothchild.

    Rothschild, a London Banker, wrote a letter saying "It (Central Bank ) gives the National Bank almost complete control of national finance. The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class... The great body of the people, mentally incapable of comprehending, will bear its burden without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical (contrary) to their interests." [The bankers created the legislation for the FED]
    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/fed_reserve.htm


    Got your interest? Does this need to be a new thread?
     
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    read why Lincoln was shot. He attempted to break the finacial dependancy off to free the US from financial dependancy (and control).

    Fannie
    I thought you were referring to Lincoln, but the Federal Reserve wasn't created to either 1913 or 1916. Have to look it up again. :)

    Fed reserve act and income tax act both 1913. Looked them up.
     
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    Fanie Fanie

    Someone give Yobernacle some points !

    If I remember right it was called something else back then.
    There was another US president shot for the same thing, can't remember his name.
    Verwoerd in SA was shot for basically the same thing.
     
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    Don't need any conspiracy theories to explain Lincoln's death; you're just annoying me with that sort of nonsense.
     
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    If you remembered rightly, you'd know the only thing close to it was the federal bank killed by Andrew Jackson -- long before Lincoln. There was no equivalent in Lincoln's time.

    Nor were any other US presidents shot 'for basically the same thing.' Please go read some real history books, instead of paranoid mishmashes.....
     
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    Following a brief training period in the Rothschilds London Bank, Jacob Schiff, a Rothschild, born in their house in Frankfurt, arrives in America at the age of 18, with instructions and the finance necessary to buy into a banking house there. The purpose of this was to carry out the following tasks.
    1. Gain control of America’s money system through the establishment of a central bank...
     
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    4 trillion of the national debt is owed to social security. Annual SS surpluses were used to buy T bills. national debt.

    About 12% of the debt is owned by pension plans and investment plans. Which with SS totals about 37%.
    Foreign governments own some. China the most, owns 1.2 trillion but is in process divesting.

    About 47% of the debt is held by banks, The Fed Reserve banks holding most. Many of the banks also borrow money from the fed. But they pledge your house and car to borrow it. Or, actually they pledge the mortgages you have.

    If we nationalized the Fed Bank and told its owners to get stuffed, that's only justice. They stole it from us to begin with!

    The monies owed the SS keep it afloat with interest payments.

    Mutual funds and pension plans should also be kept safe.

    Foreign countries? We look at past foreign aid and decide if they were loaning our own momey back to us.

    The US gives about 65 million a year to China in foreign aid. Japan, France, and Canada give more. All totaled China recieves about 2.6 billion a year in aid and all 4 countries are in debt to China. China gives about 2.2 billion in aid to africa and 3rd world nations., with resultant good will. We are funding Chinas goodwill missions!
     
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    No political goal is reach without conspiring.
     
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    It's said that Andy Jacksons last words were "I killed the bank!" He was very proud.

    How about this?
    On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve.

    President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 and the United
    States Notes he had issued were immediately taken out of circulation.
    Federal Reserve Notes continue to serve as the legal currency of the
    nation.


    In 1964 the House Committee on Banking and Currency, Subcommittee on Domestic Finance, at the second session of the 88th Congress, put out a study entitled Money Facts which contains a good description of what the FED is:

    The Federal Reserve is a total money-making machine. It can issue money or checks. And it never has a problem of making its checks good because it can obtain the $5 and $10 bills necessary to cover its check simply by asking the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving to print them.

    As we all know, anyone who has a lot of money has a lot of power. Now imagine a group of people who have the power to create money. Imagine the power these people would have. This is what the Fed is.

    No man did more to expose the power of the Fed than Louis T. McFadden, who was the Chairman of the House Banking Committee back in the 1930s. Constantly pointing out that monetary issues shouldn't be partisan, he criticized both the Herbert Hoover and Franklin Roosevelt administrations. In describing the Fed, he remarked in the Congressional Record, House pages 1295 and 1296 on June 10, 1932, that:

    Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government Board, has cheated the Government of the United States and he people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the maladministration of that law by which the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

    Some people think the Federal reserve banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into States to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain an international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime. Those 12 private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this country by bankers who came here from Europe and who repaid us for our hospitality by undermining our American institutions.
     
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    So, we're back on thread. The Federal Reserve Banks are a bunch of PIRATES!
     

  15. Frosty

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    Oh give me a break. Ive just got up.

    I don't give, nor take away --you may have noticed.

    I did not know you had to give 24 people points to give another same!!!

    Is that true,--also deductions anonymously without reason is against the rules, Ask Jeff.

    If you tell him he will give you them back.
     
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