Somali pirates

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by bntii, Feb 22, 2011.

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  1. hoytedow
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    International law be damned. Who made that stupid law?

    P.S. Merry Christmas to all and Peace on Earth to men of good will.
     
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    Truman wasn't a great president. FDR picked him as running mate, legend has it, because Truman was a political YES man. Wouldn't want to put in his 2 cents. When FDR died it's claimed Truman told Eleanor Rooseveldt, "He felt like a load of hay fell on him." Eleanor counciled and guided Truman. Eventually he grew confident in the job, began to swagger and throw his weight around. Fired MacArthur in this period. Deservedly no doubt.
    He was a bankrupt haberdasher before going into politics. In Missouri he was a YES man and gopher for a local political Boss.
    Fortunately he didn't do any really stupid things while president.
     
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    Maritime law is ancient and harsh. The following crimes if committed at sea, all have one and only one penalty. Death by hanging.
    ****, murder, grand larceny, barratry, mutiny, piracy, slaving, and mayhem.
     
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    A couple of crimes, slaving and piracy, not only are the people guilty, but the vessel herself will be condemmed and burned.
     
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    and a VERY, MERRY CHRISTMAS to you, Hoyt
     
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    Igual, y a todo tu familia lo mismo.
     
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    gracias. y tuyos tambien
     
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    I'm under the illusion that vessels under US flag follow US law. What does "international law" mean? As I understand it, the problem with the disarmament of US ships is a US policy that the people of the US (via elected representatives) has decided on. Just change your law and solve your problem.
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    Master of every vessel, regardless of flag, must uphold the laws of the nation whose flag he flies, (normally he is citizen too), international law, and when in port, the law of the nation where he is a guest. Sometimes there is a conflict. Example under US law, you are to surrender your passport to no one except a US official. But foreign imigration officers always want to take our passports to their office. Who knows why.
    In this instance, we're in their country so their rules take precedence.
    If what your inquiring is, Are US flagged ships little mobile bits of the USA? Yes. Under the flag is US territory, same as in an embassy. It's part of the nation whose flag flys over it.
     
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    Good Christmas Day to you all in the northern hemisphere. May all the good, happy, wonderful & healthy wishes y'all have for 2012 come & sit beside you for the full year & more.

    'tis Boxing-day here & I'll be kicking-back & watching - on the 'telly' the whole 2 1/2 hr presentation of the start of the Sydney to Hobart - 670 k ocean race. Some rather big, very expensive yacht-toys look like getting their asses kicked with the weather forcast being rather rough. Sure costs a lot more than when I did the races - over several years.

    Have a great day - each & everyone of you, your partners & families. May your beliefs keep you safe & happy. & smiling on the outside & the inside too!

    Please remember to - come on in here & share your happines's & achievements with us & leave everything negative in the bin at the door.

    Ciao, "peace & good will to all good men & women" , james from down-under.
     
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    Happy Boxing Day, James from Down Under.
     
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    Tried owning a bar once. Rough side of town. I'd greet customers at the door. On a table beside the door, I kept a box full of knives, brass knucks, and bludgeons.
    I'd politely inquire of the customer at the door if he was armed in anyway, and indicate the box. If they said NO, I suggested they borrow something from the box.
     
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    Hey there all,

    I read this thread with amusement at times, and wanted to share the wisdom of two youngsters.

    Discussing the issue with seven year old twins, after they had seen a news segment, they arrived at a very simple solution.

    Let them fish and sail and have fun just like we do on the weekend (meaning my extended family), but when they get too far away from the marina, shoot them and sink their boats. Because they are "baddies".

    Would a line drawn in the water at the union between the territorial waters of those muslim primates and international waters with a picket line of deadly force be so hard to establish?

    The message would be quite clear... Abdul went fishing, he came home safe. Ahmed went pirating, we never saw him again. Even those muslim primates would grasp the obvious.

    Sometimes it takes a seven year old to make the plainly obvious point.

    As for those poor souls in captivity? A simple message message... Release them or we will hunt you down and kill you.

    i have suffered through more than my fare share of macho hinted at but never spoken of stories (excluding Hollywood movies) to know that American, English and Israeli armed services have more than sufficient skill and capability to return these muslim primates to the middle ages. So stop taking about and go do it, I say.

    James.
     
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    From what I've read, many of the Somalian pirates are no longer free-lancers. They're working for people who supply them with guns and boats, negotiate for ransoms, etc. Some of the financing is even coming from abroad.

    The fact that they're getting organized now should make it easier, because organizations have heads. Maybe someone should just quietly start lopping some heads off the beast....
     
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