Somali pirate chief lured to Belgium and arrested . . .

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  1. hoytedow
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    Can you not see a powerful overbearing tyrannical government probably drove them into poverty in the first place?
     
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    And a major oil company has just been convicted for paying a 2 billion dollar bribe to officials to make certain problems go away.

    Geopolitics and industrialized counties economic interests combine to complicate issues
    Remember that when the islamisists seized control of somalia they ended piracy overnight. They just chopped thier heads off. This regime was not western approved and was removed...pirates came back to life.

    The solutions to all problems are complex...

    Officials should interrogate and listen very carefully to the testimony of the captured pirate chief so that they may learn how to formulate more effective policy responses to problems as they form..not after they have become entrenched.
     
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    Capitalism is the worst system in the world except for all the rest.
     
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    The red parts are in other wording saying more or less the same, so the question ‘‘Can you not see’’ gives a wrong suggestion about Michael's post.

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    Perhaps. It is all a matter of one's perspective, I suppose.
     
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    Paying bribe is not a part of capitalism, it's a crime just like piracy and the outcome of this bribe paying is often a form of piracy on the local resources . . . :idea:

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    Corruption runs rampant in and out of government and should be resisted. You can't paint all corporations with the tar brush because of a few bad actors.
     
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    I didn't, in fact the companies that don't pay bribe are victims as well as they can't compete with it.

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    The question is; Were they paying bribe or blackmail?
     
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    Bribes are paid for the benifit of consumers. You want a teak log...no problem, .....a bribe is paid, disguise its origin as chinese, then resell in Germany .

    We all know this is how the circle works and we accept it because we want the teak, the oil, the minerals.

    Is the problem capitalism ? Or consumerism ? Or Apathy ? Or Greed ? Or ignorance ?

    This is unclear. The results of this..problem...are very clear
     
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    I will quit consuming when I am dead, same as you.
     
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    In meantime trying to consume fair to everyone in the chain is an option . . . :idea:

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    "In the remaining countries – Australia, Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, New Zealand and Switzerland – bribes to foreign public officials are still as tax deductible as any other business expense..."

    http://pages.wustl.edu/nathanjensen/articles/4701

    What s a bribe ?

    In countries such as the US ,with laws against foriegn corrupt practices , its multi ntional companies can simply subcontract the bride out to a foreign affiliate.

    Hence the final judgement of ethical behavior can only be the end consumer.

    This means YOU......
     

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    If you actually saw what little I live on, it would probably astound you.
     
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