Small trimarans under 20'

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by Doug Lord, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. Manfred.pech
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    Lot of questions. Here is more info for you: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgu...ved=0ahUKEwi7iqOuvc3NAhUmDZoKHRenBOkQ9QEINjAC

    Does this seem more real to you?

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    Accomodations:

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    Manfred,

    The information from Small Trimarans is from 2011 and everything still looks too perfect - like a rendering. Do you have a picture with a person in it - perhaps on the boat?
    Multihulls World is the same.
    The facebook image clearly has a tapered cylinder representing the folled up jib, with no lines, and the stowed mainsail is clearly a geometric representation. And I can't imagine such a narrow staying base for the mast.

    So No, I still can't accept the reality.

    I notice the Crusoe web site is not available.

    And anyone who would pay $45K for that (even if there were no torpedoes) deserves to get fleeced.

    Really, I just want some reality and I would be happy to accept the fact the boat is real.

    Just one picture with a person under sail, please.
     
  4. Manfred.pech
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    I did not find anything newer than 2012 about Crusoe and an attempt of fundraising of about 300 000 $. Might be the whole business ran out of money and the production stopped. Might be, might be not. I do not know.
    It is very difficult, to earn money with small multihulls though the idea of Crusoe was not bad.
     
  5. Doug Lord
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    Crusoe

    Manfred, I think it is a very interesting design! It's great to see new ideas-I hope the company can make it. Thanks for posting the info!
     
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    For quick build ,low cost, low tech, great performance, you still can't beat the
    5M Piver Frolic trimaran.
    Plans are still available from the Maritime Museum. :D
     
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    Well I Googled "Maritime Museum" and got 9 different museums.

    Where?
     
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    "Frolic"

    Piver "Frolic" is mentioned on pages 10,11,30,34,38,43 of this thread......
     
  10. Manfred.pech
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    Yes you are right, we have written and read enough about Pivers Frolic. It has been the first successful small trimaran and it has earned his place in a maritim museum, in the books and tales of Jim Brown and in the dreams of us older guys.

    But from all I`ve sailed and seen I think every newer design has its merits and we should be happy that there is great progress on all points of trimaran design.
    Reqiescat in pace - Frolic.
     
  11. Doug Lord
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    Frolic

    Well, I don't mind frequent posts about a great boat but I agree that there has been progress in small tri design since Piver designed it-though not as much as I would have expected.
     
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    1970 there has been this CLIPPER 14 design by Dick Dodd with retractable foils, winner of amateur design contest of TRIMARANER. The foils are optional "with ajustable angle of incidence" and fold "back to lie alongside the floats clear of the water".

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    I think it was a great progress.
     
  13. Doug Lord
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    Wow! It's always great to learn something! Thats the first I've seen or heard of those two boats-just fantastic. Any pictures?
    The foils are "foil assist" rather than full foiling but for the time and size they are just great! Thanks, Manfred...
     
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    Thank you for your kind acceptance. I do not have pictures of CLIPPER 14. But TRIMARANER Feb 1971 reported two under construction. Interesting is the book of Dick Dodd:

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    and this page:

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  15. Doug Lord
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    Dick Dodd

    I'm so impressed with Mr. Dodd! Thanks again for making me aware of a bit of history I had no idea existed!
     
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