Sinkings off Lampedusa <continued>

Stephen - and once you have that stuff translated to Arabic, how do you imagine the further steps to be done?

 

A while back I posted a link to a BBC report aout how the smugglers advertise online. Perhaps I can do likewise, in the same places. Also, I wonder if some of the rescue efforts might hand out postcards to those who want to mail relatives back home.

What do you think I should do?

Here's a list I generated when a friend asked me
​Q. ​This information will go to 1) .....? for the purpose 2)........?
​A:
1) http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home 2) Dissemination in refugee camps in Turkey, Jordon, Lebanon
1) https://www.sams-usa.net/foundation/ 2) Dissemination in refugee camps in Turkey, Jordon, Lebanon
1) https://www.iom.int/ 2) Dissemination in refugee camps in Turkey, Jordon, Lebanon
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Middle_East_Center 2) Dissemination in refugee camps in Turkey, Jordon, Lebanon
1) Governments of Turkey, Jordon, Lebanon 2) Dissemination in refugee camps in Turkey, Jordon, Lebanon
1) http://www.moas.eu/ 2) Dissemination to rescued migrants to send back to families as postcards
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Deputies 2) Dissemination in Libya
1) Songwriters and artists 2) Inspire additional responses / efforts / further discussion
1) The press 2) Get the word out
1) Kickstarter 2) Raise money for reprints / additional efforts
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_National_Council 2) stimulate discussion
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_for_Syrian_Revolutionary_and_Opposition_Forces 2) stimulate discussion
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coordination_Committee_for_Democratic_Change 2) stimulate discussion
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Revolution_General_Commission 2) stimulate discussion
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Interim_Government 2) stimulate discussion
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Union_Party_(Syria) 2) stimulate discussion
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_Supreme_Committee 2) stimulate discussion
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Regional_Government 2) stimulate discussion
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Democratic_Party_of_Syria 2) stimulate discussion
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Syria 2) stimulate discussion

Concerning other solutions for the refugees, don't some of the gulf states hire a lot of foreign workers for Dubai, Abu Dhabi, etc? Could they be encouraged/incentivized to hire from the refugee camps? That's getting away from boats, of course ... just saying.

One problem with the US taking more migrants is that some of the Central American states are becoming so violent that we may have a refugee crisis here in the Americas. What I think we should do is ante-up more money to improve conditions in the UN refugee camps. If the US government does take asylum applications from Syrians, I think it will do so in Turkey, Jordon, Lebanon, & perhaps Kurdish Iraq.

 

But where are the smugglers and human traffickers in your list?
They are the only ones who ultimately decide on the number of people to board on a boat.

 

I might contact that Libyan businessman and see if he will help. If you have other ideas that would be great. I'm also hoping that the consumers of the service will pressure the smugglers on this point, and with this tool, will come to do business with the safer operators, and turn the dangerous ones over for prosecution.

 

Stephen mate, time to sober up. It is amazing how naive your stance on this problem is.
There are no consumers, operators or business plans there. Just victims, their exploiters and no functional State authority in between.
Who, among them, do you want to talk about your graphs to?

 

Well, if it's not a problem, then everyone can just pretend the number of people that will fit in a boat is the number of people it's safe to put to sea in a boat; people will continue to drown and, oh well, sayonara.

At some point, even if we don't have all the answers (and I certainly don't), we each need to come forward with what we have to contribute, it seems to me.

I'm happy for your engagement, Daiquiri, and don't mind some criticism. What I challenge you to to offer is a positive suggestion (noting that when you did offer one, I took it). What's to be done, in your view?

 

Sorry for the late reply. I had actually forgotten about this thread...

IMO, functional States have to be re-established first, in countries whose executive framework was destroyed in the recent north-African and Arab wars (Libya and Syria in primis). The local law-enforcing and military agencies have to be put into condition to effectively work against the organized crime. It is useless to offer proposals for boat stability limits, if there are no governmental structures who can translate them into a legislation, and then enforce that legislation too.

Once that fully-functional countries are again restored in that area, with the full control of their territory, your ideas will start to make sense. That's what I think.

 

Latest simplified message attached

Agreed. But boats operating outside the law have a long history - pirates, rum runners, etc. It doesn't mean they have to kill people. Being a persistant SOB, here's my latest attempt at getting the word out. Whomever you may be reading this, please do what you can to share it.

Dear Concerned World Citizen:

Too many lives of asylum seekers, refugees, and migrants have been lost in the Mediterranean. According to the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, 6000 migrants have died in the past two years attempting to cross the Mediterranean to Europe (or islands controlled by European nations). Boats, properly used, are not this dangerous. These boats are not being properly used; they are being severely overloaded.

The number of people that fit in a boat IS NOT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITH WHICH IT IS SAFE TO PUT TO SEA. The formula N=LB^2/6 can be utilized to approximate a reasonable relationship between passenger capacity and boat size.

How many people can you reasonably put in a boat?
DO NOT EXCEED RATED CAPACITY, AND DO NOT EXCEED
N = L x B^2 / 6
Where:
L = Length of boat in meters
B = Width of boat in meters
N = Number of people
The vertical center of gravity is known to be low​

For analysis of a specific boat, consult a naval architect. If there is a certified “stability book” for the boat, it should be utilized. Large numbers of people should not be allowed on decks above the main “weather deck” of a multi-deck boat (except for the purpose of emergency evacuation).

عزيزي تشعر المواطن العالمي:

قد فقدت حياة الكثير من طالبي اللجوء واللاجئين والمهاجرين في البحر الأبيض المتوسط. ووفقا للمفوضية السامية لشؤون اللاجئين للأمم المتحدة، وقتل 6000 المهاجرين في العامين الماضيين يحاولون عبور البحر المتوسط إلى أوروبا (أو الجزر التي تسيطر عليها الدول الأوروبية). قوارب، استخدمت بشكل صحيح، ليست هذه الخطورة. لا يتم استخدامها بشكل صحيح هذه القوارب. ويجري مثقلة بشدة هم.

عدد من الناس التي تناسب في قارب ليس عدد الأشخاص الذين يعانون التي هي آمنة للابحروا. الصيغة N=LB^2/6 يمكن استخدامها لتقريب علاقة معقولة بين القدرة الركاب وحجم القارب.

كم من الناس يمكنك وضع معقول في قارب؟
لا تتجاوز السعة المحددة، وعدم تجاوز
N = LB^2 / 6
الى اين:
L = طول القارب في متر
B = العرض من قارب في متر
N = عدد الأشخاص
ومن المعروف أن مركز الثقل العمودي أن تكون منخفضة​

لتحليل قارب معين، يجب استشارة مهندس بحري. إذا كان هناك شهادة "كتاب الاستقرار" عن المركب، وينبغي الاستفادة من ذلك. لا ينبغي أن يسمح أعداد كبيرة من الناس في الطوابق فوق الرئيسي "سطح السفينة الطقس" قارب متعددة سطح السفينة (باستثناء لغرض الإخلاء في حالات الطوارئ).​

 

M.I.A. Video Takes On Refugee Crisis

Maya Arulpragasam, better known as M.I.A., is uniquely qualified to comment on the refugee crisis in Europe. As the daughter of Sri Lankan immigrants who made their way to England, she is a walking, talking (and rapping, singing) example of the artistic ferment that can result when cultures mix. This past weekend, M.I.A. released a new, self-directed video for the song “Borders,” which will appear on her next album called Matahdatah. The video features some startling imagery that evokes refugees trying to scale fences and forming a human pyramid that turns into a human boat. Several outlets have reported that the people in the video are actual refugees, but some of the choreography is precise enough to suggest otherwise. Still, both the video and the song, with its determinedly simple but pointed lyrics and its modal, Near Eastern synth melody, make a strong statement.

 

NPR reports from Turkey: http://www.npr.org/2015/12/17/46008...rope-but-winter-makes-the-trip-more-difficult

 

The locus of the crisis has shifted to Turkey. Because of this, I've started a new thread: http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/al...eptable-its-action-time-54962.html#post763843 Please take a look. With your help, I'm convinced we have an opportunity to reduce casualties at sea.