silicon bronze vs stainless steel

Discussion in 'Wooden Boat Building and Restoration' started by Ralphw, Jul 19, 2005.

  1. cyclops
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    cyclops Senior Member

    The key to SS has always been keep them dry. Hell, why use them at all in water applications? Also, they DO stain and discolor with common cleaners , drinks and food dropped and accidently left on them. Soda spills are VERY bad. SS does NOT mean stainless in any way. Read some tech. specs about the various types. Bronzes and synthetics are far more reliable. That is why the glues are pushing all metal hardware out of most jobs they have enjoyed.
     
  2. luke bronco
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    luke bronco: racehorse or ********?
     
  4. jcleese01
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    Monel 400

    I was reading all the posts about how silicon bronze is the better material for most applications and how stainless is not as well suited for structural purposes, but I was wondering how Monel rates as a wood screw material? I know that Monel is very corrosion resistant, and very strong but is it better than the silicon bronze, or does it rate more like the stainless.
     
  5. PAR
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    Monel, (typically a third copper and 2/3's nickel, though 10:90 mixes are available) is a great material and is similar in strength to marine aluminum, though weighs somewhat more then steel at 530 lbs. cu. ft. It is pretty much immune from the effects of the marine environment and hull plating can be left bare. It's quite costly and should be sized on a scale similar to aluminum. I've seen monel fasteners and use staples and brads of the material, regularly, but bronze is stronger and less costly, so it's a simple choice.
     
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    In NOrway we use to say "copper rows" or spikes or clenches. Is this pure copper?
     

  7. PAR
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    The only roves or clench nails I've used have been copper, though I wonder if monel would make a stronger clench. Seems like it would, but likely at triple the cost.
     
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