Seaworthiness

pierre
I AM SAYING NOTHING nor am I judging, I am saying that there are open 40 and 60 designed to race around the world, that is all
I have been humbled at sea, scared at sea I have been to sea professionally in tugs I have been responsible for crew in Ocean passages so if you are growling at me then you are barking up wrong tree That is all, I am not saying any particular boat is right or wrong
Personally I do not wish to go to sea in either
No it was not a good pick, but how old was Ellen when she sailed in the Volvo and also that darned big multi?

 

What exactly was Abby boat ?

Open 40 :?: :?: What's that ?

Is it a class 40 http://www.class40.com/index.php?lang=en ?

Then who was the designer ? What experience in class 40 designs ?
Does the boat have a class certificate ? With what rules version ?

Also heard of OSR 0 for the boat. Again, what year , and compliance certified by who ?

BTW, Class 40 rules only request OSR 1 compliance , Around the world race are OSR 0. There are NO around the world races in class 40. Biggest race is solo transatlantic "Route du rhum".


I think there is a bunch of questions on this boat.

 

Gents how do you feel about this question that I posted before

any ideas ???
how will we ever know the real truth about the actual state of the boat ???

 

I am not sure I want to ask the captain to go aboard and assess any small vessel in those conditions. Rescue itself is hard enough and already diverted the captain from his true objectives.

Still it would have been nice to have some questions answered.

 

Yeah.

 

Yes, a survey would have been interesting, but asking a 180 ft steel fishing powerboat captain to survey a 40 ft composite racing sailboat is a bit off limits. aka asking a trucker to survey a racing bike

 

This pre-supposes he is familiar with small vessels, with all due respect to the Captain, this could be viewed like a truck driver assessing a F1 racing car!

 

Snap!

 

Manie
I am pretty sure, that a captain does not leave his ship
Being French he probably knows what a racing yacht is and even if he did not I,ll bet he can sum up any situation on most boats except maybe nuclear powered ship Wonder if she gets snails for brekky

 

After 70 pages of discussion, spread over three and half years, we are back to square one.

What about all these ocean racing sailors who sailed hundreds of thousands of miles? Are they not experienced enough?

 

oh well - so far it seems she had a working motor and fuel for running electricity generation for three weeks


but but but

oh dear the phone wasn't working

so back to seaworthy, much better topic than Abby

 

Well the class rules require OSR-1 but there have been plenty built that are OSR-0 and this mainly involved an extra stern bulkhead and transom escape hatch. Nothing significant has to be changed about the characteristics of the boat for them to be OSR-0 compliance. The OSR-1 boats are just as sea worthy.

The reason they build them to OSR-0 is because there obviously is a round the world race for Class 40s. The Global Ocean Race ran in 08/09 and will run again in 2011/12. They proved very successful boats in the last running.

 

What about them? Apples and Oranges as far as my quote is concerned.

 

Nothing to say, you appear to agree with me.

 

OSR-0 requires rerighting capability, with or without rig, ie 180° positive stability range.

Funny the global ocean race is not even listed in the class 40 web site.