Sea Sled madness. It’s in my brain.

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  1. DogCavalry
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    Following Pericles' link, that might be a good step with the initial leveling compound. Wet all, trowel a soft mix of cabosil and balloons into the rougher areas, ply over that, and squeegee fair. Glass the next day.
    I'll be taking a week off work, in a week or 2. Hint, hint, Bluebell.
     
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    I have some 0.030 petg for doing carbon that way..but only small scale 4x4'
     
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    Fallguy, how much cabosil for 10 gallons of balloons?
     
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    I have used about 30 pounds of cabosil in my build. For your build, 10-20 pounds, depending upon how much filleting.

    fillets are all cab about 2.1 to 1 epoxy by vol

    my homemade fairing mix...
    By weight
    25g cab
    75g balloons (sil32)
    540 g epoxy (give or take)

    remember to lay it out flat on the hawk or it'll kick on u
     
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    Cool. I wish it was colder, because your hot fillet idea has me thinking about hot fairing
     
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    John, are you going to use polythene sheeting to create an effective (hopefully) type of peel-ply when you do your glass laminating?
    I remember seeing that somebody had posted a Duckworks link to it on here, but now I cannot find that link.
     
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    Sure am, Martin! The link is on the previous page in this thread.
     
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    I have been a little mad at my homemade mix lately. I gotta refill these pin holes before sanding.
     

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    Air in your mix. Classic drywall issue. If possible keep your mixer below the surface of the mix, and don't allow it to pull in air.

    If possible...
     
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    All hand mix. What happens is when you apply the mud over a wide area; you entrain it on reuse and reuse.

    See this picture. I premark the areas so I have an idea of the fill plan. You can see a big zero where the hull is showing more than the fillers.

    Gonna fill the pocking before I sand to avoid dirt filling it all.
     
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    Seen.

    That foretells issues I'm about to have. If only I had a centrifuge.
     
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    Pericles, what is this film?
     
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    Hit 90% of the boat today with a wet mix with a (gulp) 6" trowel. Hand is sore cuz only the left understands.

    540g epoxy
    20g fumed silica
    60g sil32 balloons

    This is too saggy for large fills, and certainly going to be epoxy hard. But I mostly only did a no sanding pinhole fill.

    you might consider using totalfair or quikfair as well; you won't have as much to fair..I figure these steps saved me about a grand, but made a grand in headaches.

    Tomorrow we start sanding. Uff da. You can see I don't care too much about chines now. B1EDAE9B-54CB-4837-865C-21416E16053D.jpeg A503DC0A-3A87-469E-8A2C-5A6E2DBB4084.jpeg
     
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    I have a centrifuge.
     

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    So I'm getting my glass tomorrow. Anyone know a guy around Vancouver BC I could hire for a day or 2 to get me started?
     
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