Sci-Fi boats anyone?

Hi, Kach!

 

So Petros sails have no useful function on a military vessel - to use one of your own Heros - good job John Paul Jones didn't know that isn't it? or thousands of others before or since! (I believe the US Coast Guard has a completely useless ship called the Eagle, if it's that useless how come they haven't scrapped it yet?)

Then of course we come to the nuclear argument (as put up by Peepee) - no use at all eh! now if You'd read my post you might have seen some mention of the fact that I could see four neuclear vessels from my bedroom window that seem to work very well, submersable too! AND they've been used sucessfully in Anger! By our Navy at least - go on you may find your own has actually done it a couple of times as well........but there again nuclear won't work at sea will it? Numpty!

Sus to follow on from Charlie - there's a mention of Crab Claw sails on this forum as well, plus the bipod mast has its own shrouds (them's the stuff that makes em stand up and not fall over from side to side - the ones that prevent em falling over from front to back are called stays - what you really need is a basic book of nautical teminoligy - if you want to write about boats yoy need to be able to speak the language - sam as if you want to talk to a Spaniard - you need to speak Spanish (Ok these days the majority of Spaniards speak English but you know what I mean). As I see it a single sail slung under / between a bipod mast is the simple basic system which can be used quite easily AND be as high tech as you want! And with the size of vessel you envisage be good back up because of the payload size - and why the hell in a Special Forces Scenario do you need seperate quarters for marines? why can't the marines operate their own vessel - ours do!!!

 

> Why is everyone so anti-sails?

I am not anti-sail, it is just that they have no business on a boat with a serious mission such as the one proposed here. The story will come across as silly sounding if there is not some plausible realism even as sci fi. The only plausible way a sailboat could be used in such a mission is as a pleasure yacht decoy.

I love sailboats, but I have no delusions about them. I know they are totally irrational and they serve no practical purpose. But yet I can think of few better ways to waste time and money than messing around with sailboats. It is in fact a very good way (perhaps one of the best ways) to waste time and money while you actually believe you are accomplishing something important.

And that is why sail boats will never go away despite being obsolete, expensive and irrational to own.

 

Bull-****

 

something interesting from CNN

The crew members of a North Korean freighter regained control of their ship from pirates who hijacked the vessel off Somalia, but not without a deadly fight, the U.S. Navy reported Tuesday.

(somalia 0 North Korea 1)


http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/10/30/somalia.pirates/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/afric...dex.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail#cnnSTCOther2

American warships are currently shadowing a Panamanian vessel full of Benzine that they say has been captured by pirates

I heard about Somalia pirates a while back, in that case the story was Somalians shooting at luxury liners and trying to capture such ships.

 

Sus,
The future will see vessels which are capable of re-shaping to meet the application. Like the 'silvery' transforming shapes sent from the future to eliminate 'arnie' as he looked after a boy. What was that movie?

Any way, shape to a sailing vessel when that desire was what the 'occupier' or captain of the ship desired, or a submarine or a flying saucer from the good lady when she is not.

Then all the design freaks can have it their way at the time they want. A boat for everyones taste!

 

>>Terminator/the whole sail-controversy
how quickly absolute utopia turns into absolute dystopia, don't hang all your hopes on badass technology, its been shown time and again there is always a cost, nearly all the cool military tech ever in the world of Men was a result of a strong ambitious imperial military power (read; one which the citizens could not control)... we may have cars but I've lived in cities built for bicycles and they are better... For incredibly awesome technology I'd like to see the gizmo that eliminates poverty, heals without dehumanizing, or feeds the starving without resentments resulting. Most of the artists I know of like a good picture that shows off something dramatic, i'm not like that - at least; I think heroism and high tech wonders are no less a mixed blessing than life itself. How clean is fission? what a long lasting bad taste for earth is a 100,000 year half-life...

a little humility please. What a feast we have now, but who's picking up the bill tonight? put on the tab just means our kids will pay, mine is their story

 

Hi Sus, I was laughing as I was entering previous, thinking similar thoughts to you, but alas I like to stir the pot occasionally. check out this thread http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?p=168304 where I am on my hobby-horse on CNO (coconut oil fuel)

I thought you were after some futuristic vision for a fantasy movie.

If you wish to look in detail at my private community development project email me direct as is outside any thread herein.

 

>>stir the pot
XD i was also reacting to the threads trends, but yeah... molecular fluidity?

>>futuristic vision for a fantasy movie
sure, i guess, at least thats how it oughta look at first glance, i'm all for the hype but of course so much of it is a let down

 

Gee Sus, you are burning the 'midnight oil', it's 13:08 here, must be early there?

What was the purpose of your thread, ie what are you looking for seriously?

 

concept art for a story I'm writing.

nah its not even 1am here.

 

Sus, excuse the poor quality photos, it was done specifically to disguise the poor quality sketches

Reapid response craft taking off from the aft deck/bay.
It's supposed to look like an Avrocar, not a flying saucer!


and what about making it an Akranoplane too - give it a flat bottom and fold down sides (no Walrus, I'm talking about the boat, not myself ) to increase the 'wing' area and whoosh - ground effect.

 

Hi Sus,
If I can get it to work here is a real boat which I like

 

Flying boats with UFO-like aerial probes...................I'm ready, I can see that.

May I suggest making the big aerial probe a mother-ship for dragonfly-like UAV's which can enter a ship and fly down it's hallways getting an eye on the situation? Perhaps the robotic dragonflies are host to yet smaller fruit-fly UAV's which can enter the ear of a priate and explode or render them unconscious with drugs or soundwaves.

Man I'm good at this.

 

>>dragonfly-like UAV's
yes, very cool, and what about counter-dragonflies? robot monitor lizards? XD srsly, micro-uavs is in for situations when there aren't likely to be counter-measures. no mothership though unless its something like a toy size submarine, big enough to make headway in any sort of wind is big enough to be shot down automatically by most weapon systems.

>>a real boat which I like
thanks for sharing, got some nice lines and it looks real comfortable

>>whoosh - ground effect
smallest aircraft carrier im considering is over 300 feet and carries a big ole tilt-rotor, bout twice as big as an osprey, plus a dozen uavs and a small chopper. your deal looks like it needs some rocket fuel, sorry to say thats just too extravagant!

got a pictrure in the works now, maybe having it done today or tomorrow