Scarab 16

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by Brorsan, Feb 6, 2011.

  1. Nedelin Karnolski
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    Nedelin Karnolski Junior Member

    Hi There,
    just found the forum after research for Scarab 16. I am interested in 18 feet version. For me is the best as I have to use it mainly for lakes and coastal sailing. Is the project for extended version ready? How can I obtain it.

    Regards,
    Nedelin
     
  2. luckystrike
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    luckystrike Power Kraut

    Hello Nedelin,

    thank you that you remenber me at this very old thread, I had a nice time re-read it. Surprisingly I can fully stand behind the most topics I wrote about 9 years ago. Brorsan must be near his 30's now, if he ever built a trimaran???

    Nedelin, you can purchase the plans for the Scarab 18 here:
    Plans for the Scarab 18 trimaran http://teamscarab.com.au/scarab18/design.html

    But be aware that building a Scarab 18 with it's 9 planks per Mainhull and 5 planks per Ama is a heck full of hard work. There are designs with less work and cost involved which are more appreciative.

    Have a nice day, Michel
     
  3. Nedelin Karnolski
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    Nedelin Karnolski Junior Member

    Hi Michael,
    thank you for response. I am with a mono-hull Seafarer 465, designed by Leo da Costa. It is a trailer sailor too. I am happy with it but a bit to small. I was wandering for 650, 67o or 22. First one looks more sporty. We are 4 in family. Two small kids 8 and 12 years. I am 1.75m 65 kg. So we all can handle with space. Our manner is to sail and make a camp on the beach. Witch one of these 3 designs you will advise to be chosen? I mean for a beginner boat builder - one boat restored, and one build till the moment. As i wrote earlier I have a boat and this will be just my spare time project. I'm already in contact with the designer but continue with my research. Boat will be for Lakes, Black sea and Greece coastal sailing.

    Regards,
    Nedelin
     
  4. Nedelin Karnolski
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    Nedelin Karnolski Junior Member

    Also You may know other brands with easier to build models. Any advice will be helpful to make informed decision. It may be up to 8m but need it road legal for trailier. Up to 2.54 when loaded on trailer.
     
  5. luckystrike
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    luckystrike Power Kraut

    Hello Nedelin,

    OI have thought a lot about your questions and I think in the Scarab range I would choose the 650, just because the amas are faster to build because they have fewer planks ... I also have an eye on a god performance. The 22 seems to be more cruiser orientated with more room inside.

    But the Scarabs are in no way my favorites. They have the bad reputation that the plans are not very accurate in the plank measures and therefore the matching of planks are difficult. The Vaka has 9 planks to deck level, thats a lot! The hulls are very labour intensive with a lot of sanding of all the plank connections of the multiple chines.The scantlings are way to strong and therefore too heavy and expensive and they use too many plywood sheets with a lot of waste left over.

    I like the M80 Trimaran from www.trimarankit.com. It seems to be a good plywood boat. The main hull is relativly quick to build seven panel and I think there are 3 panel for the ama. (always to deck level).

    Currently on my drawing board is a 7,2m Trimaran that will be the simplest and quickest to build, and one of the lightest too. I have drawn a low three panel hull (up to deck level) that can be built up to painting stage before releasd from the mold and turned over. The wing and cabin house follows as well as the interior and cockpit.
    While the trim and the hydrodramatics are up to date and modern, the styling of the boat shows the classic flowing lines of Dick Newick in the early 1980's. The tri will be demontable for trailering, but it will be no folding trimaran.

    You will need a older fashioned Formula 18 or 20 beachcat and use them for amas, mast and mainsail as well as the traveller, mainsheet and turning blocks. this will cut the buiding costs down dramatically as well as working hours.

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    Have fun, Michel
     

  6. Nedelin Karnolski
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    Nedelin Karnolski Junior Member

    Hi Michael,
    M60 and M80 look good. There is no material list for them to calculate it. Your design is not ready, but I am not in a hurry. Fact that formula 20 will be useful is great. Hope you will finished the design before my final decision :) Also I am interested for design price of your one.
     
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