Actual Design Question

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by CatBuilder, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    I am getting ready to do bulkheads in a bit on the catamaran build.

    It is time to think about how to do my "galley down" layout. We are putting the galley down for chartering purposes.

    Needs:

    • Plenty of counter space
    • Large freezer and refrigerator
    • Home-ish style stove top and oven
    • Ample storage
    • Double sink

    Here is the boat as designed:

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    Here is an idea of what we want to do to change the interior, doing a galley down:

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    Questions:

    1) Can you do a fairly spacious/professional galley in a 50 sqft area with a dagger board trunk right in the middle of it?

    2) If yes on #1, how would you lay it out?

    3) Any other thoughts on alternate access to the aft stateroom that would allow us more room in the galley?

    Thanks for any input. Things seem very tight with that dagger board case right in the middle of the galley. Looking for ideas on how to set this up. :confused:

    Thanks!
     

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  2. bntii
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    bntii Senior Member

    Length of green area?
    & steps?- fwd aft or both and the bulkhead shown in green highlighted option is gone?

    What is width of floor pan in this hull area?
     
  3. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    I'm guessing the green box I shaded in to highlight the area in question is 15ft. I'm basing that on the marked measurement in the 2nd picture of 10ft from the forward bulkhead, past the board trunk, to the solid bulkhead/wall.

    Assuming 2 sets of steps. Design objective is to keep "staff/crew" functions completely separate from guest areas.

    We were looking at completely eliminating the aft stateroom in the hull in question and not being able to do 6pax charters, but that would negatively impact our weekly charter rate. So... we're trying to find a way to keep that aft stateroom open for business while still having a galley down.

    Both sets of steps are there because there needs to be separate access to crew areas and the one lone stateroom aft.
     
  4. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    Also, just to clarify...

    First picture is "as designed" from the designer.

    Second picture is my modifications, trying to get the aft stateroom to work as well as the galley down, with separate stairs for guest and crew.

    Green area signifies an area where I have made changes to the original plan. Large, full bulkhead in green area is a "wall" to separate the galley from the stairway to the aft stateroom.
     
  5. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    Yes, correct... bulkhead shown remains (open to ideas though) and length available for galley is 10' as shown, to that bulkhead in question.

    Also, width of hull is 5ft, but with of cabin sole is more on the order of 3ft.

     
  6. bntii
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    bntii Senior Member

    OK- I have entered the data into the brain.
    I will draft something.....

    Back in a few hours- billable of course :)
     
  7. bntii
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    length of trunk??

    I'm getting ~3'
     
  8. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    That is correct... 3ft length of trunk.
     
  9. Lurvio
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    Lurvio Mad scientist

    Just some thoughts that might or might not work. Id put a counter and overhead storage between the trunk and inboard wall. Limits taffic to outboard side where I'd put shallow desk space an possibly more overhead storage. The stove and sink would be on the rear bulkhead. Fridge could either sit beside the trunk or near the stove. If cooking and taking food to the buffet is a two person job, this could work well, otherwise the cook will be walking alot.

    Lurvio
     
  10. Gypsie
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    Gypsie Randall Future by Design

    Better to build an L shaped galley in the aft stb salon and include the bar/buffet, then eliminate the aft access stairs and just have one stb stairway to the aft cabins. I specialise in interiors desing, fabrication and fit. I can provide designs, shop dwgs and piece by piece joinery drawings for C&C cutting or prefab.
    Kind regards
     
  11. bntii
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    bntii Senior Member

    Cat- I am finding enough space in galley though want to see a head for aft quarters as well as one for crew.
    Three heads?
     
  12. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    Ah, the reason I was really focusing in on the green area in the drawing is that the other areas have changes too, but those aren't reflected in the drawings.

    Those "desks" in the bows will be standard, small ensuite heads. The aft stateroom in this hull we are looking at will not have its own head and will have to go across to the other hull to use the head.

    Also, I have had some input regarding the solid wall bulkhead aft in the galley. There is wasted space aft of that bulkhead, to the closet in the aft stateroom that could be taken over for galley purposes.
     
  13. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    Thanks for the input. Galley cannot be in the salon. The design requirement is to:

    separate the crew area from the guest area, such that there are no guests allowed into the crew area

    Also, there is a forward cockpit (not shown) like you would find on a Chris White Atlantic or Morelli and Melvin Gunboat. This requires 360 degree visibility from forward in the salon, so no walled off areas in the salon are possible.
     
  14. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    Thanks, Lurvio. This is a decent layout idea. Seems workable. I know what you mean about the long walk from the galley counter up to the buffet - or even worse, the dining table on the aft deck. Still sorting all of this stuff out...
     

  15. bntii
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    bntii Senior Member

    I put a small but serviceable head in that location.
    My thinking is galley is large enough and not to cramp the aft cabin..
    Apposing door with cabin and head athwart-ships aft. Sink/counter against galley bulkhead.

    Also:

    "separate the crew area from the guest area, such that there are no guests allowed into the crew area"

    Galley is "grew area"?

    Guests need access to fridge, sinks, cutlery, dishes off meal times...

    Chips and a beer midnight snacks?
     
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