Questions about safety of CSK / Polycon Catamarans for cruising

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by magentawave, Mar 13, 2019.

  1. magentawave
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    I might check out a 38' Buddy Ebsen Polycon cat in Florida. My intention is to do mostly solo extended cruising with an occasional crew or two along the way.

    I have two concerns about this design:

    - CAPSIZE: This 38'er has a beam of only 17' with a 45' tall mast.

    - PITCH POLING: The hulls have a lot of rocker which promotes hobby horsing - which could lead to pitch poling.

    Questions, please...

    1) Has there been a lot of safe and successful long distance cruising with these narrow beam cats?

    2) Any word about pitchpoling?

    Anything you can recall regarding the safety record of this design will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
     
  2. Mr Efficiency
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    Are the hulls especially slender ? Is the sail area less than wider beam cats ?
     
  3. magentawave
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    The hulls are slender and symmetrical but pinched at the bottom unlike the round hulls on most cats. The sterns are narrow too. I don't know the breakdown of the sail area per sail yet but total is 760 sq ft.
     
  4. Richard Woods
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    I'd worry more about the pitching than pitchpoling or capsize. You will suffer from hobbyhorsing all the time. Check out the transpac race results of late 50-60s Worldcat, Golden Cockerill etc and then decide. Of course you are talking about an old boat so be prepared for lots of refitting

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  5. magentawave
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    But can't pitching lead to pitchpoling on a cat with hulls that have lots of rocker? I couldn't find anything about Worldcat and Golden Cockerel sailing in the Transpac. Was there something unusual about those boats?
     
  6. fallguy
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    fallguy Senior Member

    How hard you planning to run the old girl!

    Pitchpole is generally hard running in rough seas for the vessel size.

    Pitching is a comfort issue in a cruiser.

    Just ask Richard in a private conversation for a thumbs up or down on it. He is a wise sailor.
     

  7. Richard Woods
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    sorry missed a comma. world cat sailed round the world. Golden Cockerel did an OSTAR. Also check out the AYRS publications, most available for free and the early catamaran books. I think there Buddy Ebsen even wrote a Polycon book?
     
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