Pocket cruising boats

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  1. Guillermo
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    Jester challenge

    Delightful pages, outstanding race and seafaring people.
    http://www.jesterinfo.org/index.html

    ....It might be well to remember the words of Jack Odling-Smee, the Chairman of the original race committee: “…the concept of the race (is) to defeat the ocean rather than the other competitors."
     
  3. Guillermo
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    Guillermo Ingeniero Naval

  4. Guillermo
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    Web pages for the FLICKA. A great little boat!
    http://www.flicka20.com/

    Her numbers:

    Lod = 6,09 m
    Lwl = 5,54 m
    Bmax = 2,44 m
    Bwl = 2,2 m
    Draught = 0,99 m
    HD = 0,3 m (guess)
    Disp = 2721 kg
    Ballast = 817 kg
    Sail area = 22,23 m2
    Power = 8 HP

    Length/Beam ratio (Lfl+Lh)/2B = 2,38
    Ballast/Disp Ratio Ball/Disp = 0,3
    Displacement/Length Ratio D/L = 446,35 (Wow!)
    Sail Area/Disp. Ratio SA/D = 11,59
    Power/ Disp. Ratio HP/D = 1,33 HP/ton
    Hull speed HSPD = 5,71 Kn
    Potential Maximum Speed PMS = 5,64 Kn
    Velocity Ratio VR = 0,99
    Capsize Safety Factor CSF = 1,76 (OK under 2)
    Motion Comfort Ratio MCR = 30,81

    Angle of Vanishing Stability AVS = 118 º
    Heft Ratio HF = 1,46 (OK over 1)
    Roll Period T = 2,78 Sec
    Roll Acceleration Acc = 0,07 G's (Malaise 0.1+)
    Stability Index SI = 1,14 (Comfort: 1 – 1,1)
     
  5. VadimGo
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    VadimGo Junior Member

    thank you
     
  6. Mychael
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    Mychael Mychael

    Speaking of Nor'Sea yachts, What became of them?
    I found their website once and sent a few e-mails but never got any replies, Also to the owners groups drew no response.

    Mychael
     
  7. Guillermo
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    Info on the CATALINA 30 (Deep keel version).
    Data taken from: http://kb.sailboatowners.com/brand?post=84

    Loa = 9,12 m
    Lwl = 7,62 m
    Bmax = 3,3 m
    Bwl = 2,97 m
    Draught = 1,35 m
    HD = 0,5 M (guess)
    Disp = 4625 kg
    Ballast = 1870 kg
    Sail area = 42 m2
    Power = 30 HP


    Length/Beam ratio (Lfl+Lh)/2B = 2,54
    Ballast/Disp Ratio Ball/Disp = 0,4
    Displacement/Length Ratio D/L = 291,56
    Sail Area/Disp. Ratio SA/D = 15,37
    Power/ Disp. Ratio HP/D = 2,94 HP/ton
    Hull speed HSPD = 6,7 Kn
    Potential Maximum Speed PMS = 7,16 Kn
    Velocity Ratio VR = 1,07
    Capsize Safety Factor CSF = 2 (OK under 2)
    Motion Comfort Ratio MCR = 24,76

    Angle of Vanishing Stability AVS = 121 º
    Heft Ratio HF = 0,91 (OK over 1)
    Roll Period T = 2,39 Sec
    Roll Acceleration Acc = 0,15 G's (Malaise 0.1+)
    Stability Index SI = 0,72 (Comfort: 1 – 1,1)
     
  8. Guillermo
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    Here what I've found:
    http://www.norseayachts.com/

    Some data for the 27:

    Loa = 8,23 m
    Lwl = 7,62 m
    Bmax = 2,44 m
    Bwl = 2,2 m
    Draught = 1,17 m
    HD = 0,5 M (guess)
    Disp = 3672 kg
    Ballast = 1405 kg
    Sail area = 36,6 m2
    Power = 20 HP

    Length/Beam ratio (Lfl+Lh)/2B = 3,25
    Ballast/Disp Ratio Ball/Disp = 0,38
    Displacement/Length Ratio D/L = 231,48
    Sail Area/Disp. Ratio SA/D = 15,63
    Power/ Disp. Ratio HP/D = 2,47 HP/ton
    Hull speed HSPD = 6,7 Kn
    Potential Maximum Speed PMS = 7,25 Kn
    Velocity Ratio VR = 1,08
    Capsize Safety Factor CSF = 1,6 (OK under 2)
    Motion Comfort Ratio MCR = 30,4

    Angle of Vanishing Stability AVS = 133 º
    Heft Ratio HF = 1,46 (OK over 1)
    Roll Period T = 3,07 Sec
    Roll Acceleration Acc = 0,06 G's (Malaise 0.1+)
    Stability Index SI = 1,26 (Comfort: 1 – 1,1)


    Very nice numbers, indeed!
     
  9. Mychael
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    Mychael Mychael

    That is the site I've looked at before. It does seem to have been updated a little so I've tried sending them another e-mail.
    Last time I sent several e-mails to the company as well as names mentioned in the owners group and never received a single reply.

    Mychael
     
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    Seafra Sailing Nerd

    Anyone here mentioned the Rhodes 22. Unsinkable, impossible to turtle, suberb sailing hardware, spacious cockpit, cruising appointments, and one of the most brilliantly designed cabins on a '22.
     
  11. Guillermo
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    Using numbers at http://www.rhodes22.com/spec.html , I get for the Rhodes 22:

    Length/Beam ratio (Lfl+Lh)/2B = 2,63
    Ballast/Disp Ratio Ball/Disp = 0,24
    Displacement/Length Ratio D/L = 161,47
    Sail Area/Disp. Ratio SA/D = 16,52
    Power/ Disp. Ratio HP/D = 6,9 HP/ton
    Hull speed HSPD = 5,99 Kn
    Potential Maximum Speed PMS = 6,8 Kn
    Velocity Ratio VR = 1,13
    Capsize Safety Factor CSF = 2,25 (OK under 2)
    Motion Comfort Ratio MCR = 13,51

    Angle of Vanishing Stability AVS = 114 º
    Heft Ratio HF = 0,64 (OK over 1)
    Roll Period T = 1,4 Sec
    Roll Acceleration Acc = 0,27 G's (Malaise 0.1+)
    Stability Index SI = 0,57 (Comfort: 1 – 1,1)
     
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  13. Guillermo
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    Excellent site, skyl4rk. Thanks for the info.
     
  14. Guillermo
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    Don Cameron has kindly told me about the Pacific Pilot motorsailer (27'), designed by William Gardner.
    I've found very little information in the net about it, just a few numbers constant in this ad: http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1563031/0 which corresponde to Pacific Pilot 21, not the 27.
    I attach a Pacific Pilot 27's photo also kindly provided by Don, who owns "Magnus", a very nice and seaworthy Viksund 33 MS.
    You may find his very interesting pages on his boat at:
    http://www.silverdonaldcameron.ca/magnus.html

    Someone knows more about this Pacific Pilot boat?
     

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