Poacher 22 trailer sailer

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by serow, Jun 5, 2016.

  1. serow
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    serow Junior Member

    Anybody have experience of these?

    What would commenters think of increasing the headroom slightly under the foresail? As you can see its a bit coffin like even for an over-nighter. It should be possible to raise some of the roof and get a window or two in without compromising the strength of the deck required to stay the rear mast. Will it affect the aerodynamics much?
    I realise that getting from the cockpit to cabin will still require a climb past the mast.
    I'm not expecting to turn it into long stay accomodation but I don't fancy eating sandwiches by torchlight.
    Not optimistic about the photos appearing BTW
     

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  2. Richard G
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    Richard G Junior Member

    Poacher

    I have one.
    It's an excellent boat.
    I would not do what you are suggesting or you will ruin it.
    Why not sell it to someone who will appreciate its qualities and buy something like a Corribee or Signet instead?
     
  3. Richard G
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    Richard G Junior Member

    Too clarify ....

    It is best regarded more as a luxurious camping dinghy rather than a cramped yacht.
    It's for people who place a premium on sailing performance with ease of handling and versatility.
    The clear decks are great for working the boat, and sunbathing!
     
  4. Richard G
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    Richard G Junior Member

    One further thought

    The Poacher is huge fun to sail. It's a sailor's boat.
    There is still time this season. Why not get it in the water and see how you enjoy it.
    Then decide if you want to mess around with it.

    BTW if you have not already done so you need to check whether there is any penetration of water into the balsa core. Hopefully there isn't.
    You need to remove all fittings. Over drill the holes. Fill and re-drill. To prevent any possibility of water ingress into the core.
    If water is getting into the bilges it is probably via the toerail bolts because the original sealant has hardened. You will need to remove the toerails and rebed. Using something like 3M 5200.
    I got mine re-anodised at the same time.
     
  5. Richard G
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    Richard G Junior Member

    A photo

    By way of inspiration, here is a photo of mine under sail a month ago.
     

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  6. Petros
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    Petros Senior Member

    I would hate to ruin the lines of such an unusual and attractive boat. It would be a shame to alter it so drastically.

    You might also harm its value if you alter the structure so any potential future owner would not know if any changes done to the structure are sound.

    OTHO, just a couple of small ports to let light in might make a big difference inside, or perhaps a flat sky light on the fore deck?
     
  7. Richard G
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    Richard G Junior Member

    Two lights in the deck were fitted as standard.
    Plus there is an aperture through which you can lift the keel (should it ever need removing) which has a light.
    I have seen a boat advertised for sale with windows let into the topsides. I don't know if this was a factory option or a retrofit.
     
  8. Squidly-Diddly
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    Squidly-Diddly Senior Member

    I'd guess doing a decent job would run near $20,000 USD.

    Use 1/2 that to buy a whole additional boat.
     
  9. makerofthings
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    makerofthings New Member

    Hello,

    I have just brought the red boat in the above post, I'd very much like to hear from anyone with any information about the boat,

    Its going to be moved down to west Cornwall, to spend time on and around the Helford river and Carrick roads..

    Cheers. Dan.
     
  10. RHP
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  11. Bob Wood
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    Bob Wood Junior Member

    Ive taken possession of nr 23 she now has telescopic masts so they can be stepped collapsed then extended. Makes stepping them so much easier for a 70 year old simgle hander. I drilled the lower plug on the topmast and fed 4mm dynema up through dumb sheave in the upper plug which was fastened in place the dynema tail falls doen the back of the lower mast to a bottle screw at the foot of the mast , it has an eye spliced in the end to engage the tensioner and a 10 mm removable haulingine.
    So far its a success. More reports to follow.
    Bob Wood.
     
  12. bajansailor
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    bajansailor Marine Surveyor

    Welcome to the Forum Bob!
    Would you like to post some photos of your Poacher on here please?
     
  13. Bob Wood
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    Bob Wood Junior Member

    Has anyone solved the ventilation problem? At present its a sweat box down below. Will load some pictures when ive mastered the tech, too busy sailing. Fell in with a pod of st least 6 dolphins on the upper Solway Firth yesterday, stunning makes all the work worth while.
     
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  14. dave haughton
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    dave haughton Junior Member

    Hi, I have had one for the last 10 years or so, it belonged to my brother

    It s great fun to sale, easy to use etc
     

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  15. dave haughton
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    dave haughton Junior Member

    We kitted out the inside, it got really bad so had to make a few bits :) Made our own wood panels, stripped out the lining and replaced, the glue was very strong, rewired it, new McWilliams sails etc etc

    not used in the last 4 years but repairing the trailer and getting ready to sail again

    My brother used it all round the British Isles, I used mainly on Windermere which is quite tricky, the topography gives interesting wind patterns. Squalls happen really quick, but can be becalmed within minutes.

    48 knots wind was really hairy, I had to drop 1 sail and reef the 2nd to get back to moorings, max speed showed just over 12 knots goose winging before I thought safety first.
     
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