planning on cutting a wooden hull along the centerline

Discussion in 'Wooden Boat Building and Restoration' started by jedclampit, Jan 28, 2006.

  1. Oyster
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    Oyster Senior Member

    The listing show a location of New Hampshire. But you say you want to ship it across country.:confused: but show your location in Florida? I also find it a bit unsettling when I see someone that expresses a love for something like this, willing to seek advice about cutting it in half to ship it, saving money, and accepting the fact that you will need to put the hull back together, then say what the heck "I will just take a chainsaw to it, if it doesn't sell. So you save money in shipping, by cutting it in half, and then will requie both funds to do the undo, and the redo....Follow what I am saying? At some point, even if you cut it up, ship it, you still need to spend money on maintainance but want to , in alot of ways, destroy the boat. Heck the age of the boat will give you some real issues too, especially when you cut it and ship it and then try to get any decent money for resell, if anyone find out about it. But why would you do this to a 2006 hull? I just don't follow you either. But in the mean time, if do choose to go the chainsaw route, contact this address first. He operates a rescue operation for old hulls and has a website, which I do not have the link right now.

    http://www.overlandexperts.com/

    Bruce@overlandexperts.com
     
  2. jedclampit
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    jedclampit Junior Asparagus

    I'm in Florida and the hull is in New Hampshire...thus I'd have to move it to Florida to keep it. Okay so it's not across country, just 1500+ miles...

    I do love the boat and want to keep it. I've been told by hand full of forum members not to cut it in half. It’s not about saving money…it’s about spending 10 to 12 grand to move the thing… I only wanted to cut it so that I could afford to move it. The wife keeps me on a tight budget. Also a 40’ 14’4” wide boat is a little large for me...If I had to no choice I’d keep it in its original state and move it.

    If I don't sell it or move it to Florida, then the owner will have no options but to cut it up and trash it (I don't want that to happen). We have contacted several organizations all of which will not incur the expense to lift it and haul it.

    This has to be done properly or the owner’s house is at risk. How would you feel about Joe Schmoo lifting a 6,000 pound 40' long, 15 foot wide and 10' tall box over your house?

    I'd want to be sure that it was done properly...how about you?

    I’m still looking at cutting her to a smaller size so that I could use the hull…again everyone is saying no, don’t do it!

    See this link as well... http://forums.boatdesign.net/showthread.php?p=76893#post76893

    Thanks for your input though…even if it is very negative... ;)
     
  3. Oyster
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    Oyster Senior Member

    If I sound negative, and thats the way you took it, I fully apologize to you, But understanding some details is not being negative. You, yourself provided a link to a 2006 hull. This says its a new hull to me, until you can convince me differently. One of the reasons that I conveyed any comments was after opening up the link provided , was that I do not understand why you cannot place that boat in the water and float it to Florida after reading the location? I know sometimes I am not the brightest lightbulb sometimes, and my eyes are not the best, so help me if I missed some details. Why cannot this happen?

    I move boats and have moved many boats by water. I understand the issue of a crane. But you cannot rebuild this hull new, fix a house or buy a crane for 10 grand. If you are shell shocked at the figure, you do not need to the hull, if this is your only option and you are suffering panic attacks.. Thats my opinion, and gained from many years of listening to whiners about money spent on boats.

    "Boat" is not spent Boat On Another Thousand for nuttin.

    And another passing thought, this is a forum, where people see and express views differently. I know this way too well. and understand that we only have words posted in a short and brief time to make an attempt to express ourselves the best we can for the limited time.

    I shared a few thoughts on this forum a couple of years ago, to listen to several nasty and opinionated forum members spew their trash or negative words at me about wooden boats, something that I have spent my lifetime designing and building,and took a long sabatical from it. I have no future plans to spend my idle time on the internet sparing, only sharing some passing thoughts, no different than any other person sharing their concerns on this paritcular issue.

    Saw it up if you like, as thats not my problem or concern. I have nuttin to gain or loose in this. But 10 grand ain't nuttin to spend over the long haul of this boat. Otta of this one.
     
  4. jedclampit
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    jedclampit Junior Asparagus

    Oyster,

    I’m not shelled shocked by the price…I just have a new family which is continuing to grow, and could wisely use the money elsewhere.

    If I had it in me to own a boat that would cost me between one and two thousand dollars a month to leave moored in a marina here in south Florida only to use it once and awhile for vacations and holidays…and if I had a great big space to work on it here at my home, and if I wanted to spend thousands of hours away from my kids working on the boat and if I wanted to use the college funds for my first two kids for my own dreams, then yes I would be happy to spend the ten grand to move the boat. I love working with wood and this project would be a dream for me, and I’m sure that I have the talent and the skills to do it… it’s just…well…

    My wife has pointed out the fact to me that for about ten grand I could buy a little pocket cruiser off of EBay all ready to go and we’d be sailing next weekend. Just a thought…

    We are looking into all options, as I’d love to build a pocket cruiser out of wood and fiberglass that would be less than 30 feet and still be launched from a trailer. If I could build it out of the hull that’s available to me and ship it to Florida for about six grand then I would do it…but I’m not getting any nods on that idea.

    I didn’t mean to piss you off….I’m just responding to your post as I started the thread looking for help…and I did thank you for your opinion.

    I did checked on floating it down and I even thought of trailer-ing my 24’ cuddy cabin up there to tow it down here… The fuel cost alone is more than the overland estimates, never mind the time and other expenses. Many yacht movers told me that it’s way cheaper to move by land than by sea…

    And the new thing? Well the boat is not finished and as I see it, until such time it is still under construction therefore new... when it's done then you can say it was completed in 2008... etc. Are you suggesting that I list it as a 1880 model just because it's designed after the original Spray? I stated that the hull was started twenty years ago...I'm not trying to deceive anyone

    I don't mean to piss anyone off...just trying to learn this whole boat building thing.

    But, Thanks again for your suggestions.

    Jed :)
     
  5. longliner45
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    longliner45 Senior Member

    Man, nice lookin boat!jed think about this ,only you can make you happy .are you ganna look back 6 years from now and say crap ,I coulda had that boat , or you could be like me ,and really piss the neighbors off by putting the prodject in the front yard!I have a 2 year plan for my boat,,,,,Im in no hurry ,nobodys missing anything.plan was delayed for 1 year due to back surgury,but someday it will happen.,,,,,,,dream big keep the wind at your backand the sun in your face ,longliner
     
  6. jedclampit
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    jedclampit Junior Asparagus

    I am surprised that no one suggested to make a plug out of her.

    I am surprised that no one suggested making a plug out of her.

    If I had to cut her in half maybe one answer is to make a plug out of her to make a female mold. Is there any demand for a 40’ fiberglass Spray Hull? Then you’d have to make several deck plugs and molds and badda-bing you’re in the marketplace with a Spray…

    Just a thought… and longliner...We will have to wait and see of what becomes of her. I might just have to cut her in half and store her at my father-in-laws...he's already agreed...

    Jed
     
  7. LP
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    Jed,

    Any decision you make will be the right one for you.

    If you are able to split it and store it, that will be the right decision. At least now you have time on your side and still have the opportunity to build a family heirloom. Who knows, maybe there will be three generations involved in the completion of your Spray.

    Good luck!
     
  8. jedclampit
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    jedclampit Junior Asparagus

    She Has A New Home

    For you who were interested...She was sold and the new owner has started down the path to complete her. A young couple in their twenties are planning on completing her and sailing her around the world.

    Thanks

    Jed.
     

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  9. hansp77
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    hansp77

    Nice one Jed,
    Good luck to them.
    It is good to see that no-one had to take a chainsaw to her.
    I am sure that the builder will be over-the-moon.

    P.S. Did you get that trailer sailer?
     
  10. bluemarble
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    bluemarble 40' Wooden Spray

    I am the one who bought this boat!!

    Hello everyone,
    I stumbled across this post while browsing the forums and to my surprise it was about my boat!! I can't believe she was almost cut in half! Everything is going great so far. I am working on a more permanent shelter for her right now. I just finished leveling the boat and building staging around the entire perimeter. She'll be in the water in no time :)

    -Matt
     

  11. hansp77
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    hansp77

    Hello Matt,
    congratulations and good luck.
    Post some photos and let us know how it goes.
    Hans.
     
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