Pirates Sieze Sailing Family off Yemen

Discussion in 'Press Releases' started by Trevlyns, Jun 24, 2008.

  1. Trevlyns
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  2. the1much
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    the1much hippie dreams

    and all these idiots that think im "simple" because i say shoot the f*ckers the minute they get on a boat.
     
  3. charmc
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    think im "simple" (the1much)

    From the Miriam Webster Dictionary on line:
    Simple:
    1. free from guile
    2. a. free from vanity b. free from ostentation or display
    3. of humble origin or modest position

    If the shoe fits ... :)

    i say shoot the f*ckers the minute they get on a boat
    9. readily understood or performed
    Simple solution, too. I have no problems with that.

    With all the cautions about arms on board, etc., I'm all for aggressive self defense. Piracy is just assault and battery on water.
     
  4. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Not good news, but then again how much news & publicity led these fools to think they were immune from being attacked by pirates? Why not just avoid those waters?, It is not as if the cruising was an absolute MUST?

    If the pirates have AK47's what defence can be made, those are real mean weapons and would out-weigh most US military toys as personal arms apart from a grenade launcher - which they also probably have.... as well as those "rocket propelled grenade thingies" what to do except keep well away - a cruising yacht just could not carry sufficient defences....
     
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    I know, its hard to carry enough to defend against multiple sutomatic weapons and RPGs. Look at a map, though; the only direct route between the Med and the Indian Ocean is past this coast.

    If there is enough outcry (translation: if there are enough attacks on ships owned by companies with clout) convoys may be an answer. Big guns to protect shipping.
     
  6. Fanie
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    Fanie Fanie

    It is alarming... since water is an open and desolated place. I've heard other stories of piracy too... but what is the solution ? You cannot always have a bigger gun than the next guy ?

    As for aggressive and radical self defense, it's probably going the same way as on land. Guy sticks a gun in your face and you kick the crap out of him, then you are said to be the attacker. Rediculous but that's how it is.
     
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    the1much hippie dreams

    if you was a pirate ,,and all of a sudden,, other pirates and pirate ships were being blown outta the water by f-16's,,or a sub breached through ya,,im betting ya would lie low until,if, the pirate killing was over,,i bet ya blow up 4 or 5 ,,it'll all go back to where hearing a pirate story was not an everyday thing.
     
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    Back in the old days the Royal Navy used to patrol the area on regular pirate patrols - any pirates got short shift and were terminated with extreme predjudice -of course these days the Brits can't afford to do this, the only country that can is the good old US of A! amybe if they kick the locals arse and tell them "if there's anymore pirate outrages well kick your arse, big time2 then something will happen, until then stay the **** away from the area!! simple
     
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    safewalrus Ancient Marriner

    Long range sniping at pirates may look good in the movies but in actual practice you don't know they are pirates until they are fairly close - you want to go shooting up every fishing boat in the world as you go past on the chance they may be pirates? Don't forget in pirate infested waters all fishing boats will carry arms, they don't want to get jumped by pirates either!! You shoot up a boatload of innocent fishermen from a distance you'll soon get a few large government vessels looking for you! You'll probably hang!! No short range weapons that spray a lot and then total distruction, BUT ONLY if they attack you first! They won't do that until they are sure they will win! One bullet at range and they'll shear off and call the local Navy, see above!
     
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    As always it is very distressing to read these reports

    BUT

    ran out of fuel ????? say what dude ?????

    this guy probably doesnt read internet
    there are many pages that warn not to go near Somalia
    the Red Sea is another **** hole

    learn to sail yourself
    having a "captain" - hired hand on board is a beeeeeeg problem

    love it or leave it you will have to go around
    Cape Town is a very pretty - interesting stop over
    then up to Seychells, the folks love it there
    and then across
     
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    the1much .....I'm with ya mate.

    there is only one language these people understand....why bother trying to translate...shoot 'em all and let God sort 'em out.....
     
  12. the1much
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    the1much hippie dreams

    i think it matters a whole lot on WHERE you are safey,,,if you guys were in waters known to be pirate waters,,,then,,,your cheif officer should have been blown out of the water,just for not having the brains of a pimple,,,and sorry to say,,,with all you innocent guys on board,,,,,,,,in a situation like that,,,ya need to ask whats more important,,him or you,,hehe ;)
     
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    Apparantly the locals have responded to pressure and in a novel way. They have said anyone caught pirating will be punished under sharia law and either put to death or will be maimed.

    These guys are more afraid of the local mad mullah than an F16 they cant see.
     
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    Fanie Fanie

    Would be handy to have an F16 close by. You have to pinch your nose close to talk to them though, they usually respond netter to co-pilots :D

    Better make really sure they know which boat is yours and which belongs to the pirates :D

    He he... St Peter, I told the pilot twice WE are the one with the black flag :D
     

  15. Fanie
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    Fanie Fanie

    On a vast piece of water someone else have no business getting close to you with their boat. The only time other boats are closeish is when they are all fishing an area, but never the less if another boat gets too close it becomes a safety risk as well.

    If another boat shows interest, tell him to bugger off. If they fail to respond show them you mean it. If they hang around, report them. Not sure if they would respond to a charge of suspicion on suspicion...
     
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