Philippe Starck design

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  1. watchkeeper

    watchkeeper Previous Member

    I recently saw renders of PS designs for Steve Jobs unfinished yacht and I hope is stays unfinished.
    Having worked on PS first attempts at designing a yacht I for one sincerely hope that PS returns to designing furniture and trivia for Parisian trendies and leaves yacht styling to those that can.
     
  2. FMS
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    Any photos of the one you worked on watchkeeper?
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
    I never cared for apple's mac styling either, but they have lined up buyers with it.
    From my view, the fish tank imac was the worst computer design ever and even that sold well.
     
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    We got photos of interiors and interior mock ups building A (for our own records) that the Dubai based interior design company confiscated from all company PC. Apparently under the yard contract there was a NDA on the construction and interior.
     
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Jobs' biographer Walter Isaacson says in an oktober 24, 2011 interview for Dutch TV the boat is being built by Feadship in Holland and is half finished. Isaacson speaks about the boat from 11:32 till 12:24 in the 17:16 interview which is in English after the ad.

    Word in Holland is the boat is not at the De Vries yard in Makkum so if this and the interview info is true my guess is the boat is at the De Vries yard in Aalsmeer.

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    De Vries Scheepsbouw: Dutch website / Google translation.

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    Oh... BTW, I don't think they want to waste the money invested in the half finished boat so I think Jobs' wife or some buyer is gonna waste some more and will finish the boat once . . . :p

    Cheers,
    Angel
     
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    Yep.......blegh!......

    What's the bulb thingy aft of the prop? And why the rudders way out on the corners of the transom?
     
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    From above link...
    Which means we can't be sure Jobs' boat looks like the Breathe concept.

    Watchkeeper, have you seen renders of this Breathe concept or of the actual Steve Jobs boat . . ? ?

    If the latter, how much does it looks like Breathe . . ? ?

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    The thing in the middle looks like a ‘costa bulb rudder

    Costa Bulb
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    COSTA Propulsion Bulb & Rudder + appended Thrust Fin

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    See also the drawing on page 10 + search the PDF for ‘‘Costa’’ and see this PDF.

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    Prop + Ruder & Bulb on a Ferry

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    Here Rolls-Royce integrated propeller and rudder system Promas.

    See the tabs: 'Overview' -- 'Benefits' -- 'Efficiency' -- 'Promas Lite Upgrade' -- 'Study'

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    This video shows an animation of the water flow on... (double click in the video image to enlarge)
    00:44 Prop + Rudder.
    00:48 Prop + Costa Bulb Rudder.
    00:52 Promas Prop Rudder System.​
    Bear in mind it's a Rolls-Royce Promas promotion video but the animated flows are looking plausible . . . :)

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    From the link in post #4.

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    Don't know what the outside flappy rudder looking thingies are, maybe some auxiliary rudders, or maybe the bulb is on a fixed skeg and the outside flappy things are the very vulnerable main rudders . . . . :confused:

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    See also for propulsion efficiency . . . . . . .

    Contra Rotating Propulsion + Integrated Steering - / - Fixed Shaft Prop + Contra Rotating Prop on a Azipod

    Niigata
    IHI
    ABB Marine -- More Inspiration
    Cheers,
    Angel

    P.S. - See also contra-rotating propellers in the old shaft in shaft configuration as they are in aviation.
    Some more info on Contra-rotating --> Marine propulsion - Shaft in Shaft - & - Shaft + Azipod​
     
  13. watchkeeper

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    I've only seen the renders of the PS/Feadship colaboration.

    I'm not a traditionalist, when I used to design (architectural) I preferred modernism/contemporary styling but this design like A lacks the essence of what a yacht is about.
     
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    I would be appalled it if the majority of yachts were styled ignoring the design cues and functional aspects which have have been learned over centuries. However, I'm glad that a few designers are conceptualizing free from the mold. When someone such as Steve Jobs spends his money to try and create something new, I assume the design process isn't flippant, and I think it's a very good thing to try and break the mold every so often. I also find A interesting. I wish there were more online explaining the design process for it.
     
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    Good point FMS [​IMG] - It makes me think of . . . . .

    ‘‘ REASON

    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.

    The man who listens to Reason is lost; Reason enslaves all whose minds are not strong enough to master her.
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    George Bernard Shaw - - From: Man and Superman - - Maxims for Revolutionists

    Cheers,
    Angel
     
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