Pacific Sun Cruise liner in very heavy seas. Internal CCTV footage.

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  1. bearflag
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  2. apex1

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    Yeah...

    sometimes it is not easy to redecorate a saloon. But more space in the middle was a good decision.:D
     
  3. bearflag
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    I know right?

    You would "think" (or at least I would).... that you would have more things "fixed" or "fixable" to prevent this sort of thing. But hey, I live in california, and if you are business and you don't have things like your cabinets and racks/shelves bolted to the floor or walls in case of earthquake, the fire marshall will close you down.

    On a cruise ship, even if you never "expect" to be at sea in heavy weather... you should plan for it. No real excuse for not securing that stuff as soon as the boat started rocking. I don't really care what the SOP is for the cruise business... People could have easily gotten seriously maimed or killed there.

    Hell the forklift or something else could even puncture the hold of the boat and sink the whole damn thing. (not sure where the water comes from in the last few seconds of the CCTV footage, probably just a barrel)
     
  4. apex1

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    should have put a smiley on that post. have done it now.....

    These holds are usually in a double hulled compartement. The forklift cannot puncture the outer plating.

    But I completely agree on the idiotic way of furnishing the saloon. There was not even the heavy cabinet fixed! They should have sent a few to jail after that incident.
     
  5. bearflag
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    Maybe it is because I was brought up in a military family or maybe because I worked in the special events business for a while and packed, and transported all sorts of strangeness. I am always about securing things when they aren't in use.

    Some of the most horrific accidents I have seen are when people are "just transporting something across town" and are "going to stay clear of the freeway".

    But, I don't know... I never have been in the navy, or worked on a cargo ship. But it really doesn't take half a brain to have some webbing on open shelves, tie up or chain heavy items like forklifts and large pipes and barrels when in heavy seas states or even when just not in use.

    I agree with you absolutely though. Whomever was irresponsible for the lax securing should be fired and made liable.

    When it comes to safety on this sort of thing though it isn't enough just to punish the guy at the top. The average employee needs to make it his job and be willing to report to the top and/or make the changes themselves.
     

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    It's the guy at the top that's responsible, he set the tone

    and i don't mean the VP in charge of going to jail
     
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