Pacific Proa Junk Rigged???

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by rael dobkins, Aug 17, 2019.

  1. rael dobkins
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    rael dobkins Senior Member

    Rob, thanks for correcting me. you're right, I do need to sail one..... Sorry for jumping to a wrong conclusion!

    When I said 'True Pacific' I meant shunting vessel weight to leeward, of course there is a huge difference between a modern proa and a traditional one. It's the concept that is the same, the way it's sailed is the same.

    That E25 is Pacific enough for me! I like it, you say the twin boards solve weather helm. Then I was wrong, I apologize.
    Good luck Rob

    All the best.
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2019

  2. rob denney
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    rob denney Senior Member

    Finished boat? Me? It is finished enough to go sailing (needs the plastic beams melted and moulded for the deck slats and a coat of paint), I will put together a video over the weekend. It sails well, given the tarpaulin sail. Self steers between ~120 and 60 true wind. Upwind is ordinary, down wind hard work, although taking the tack to windward fixes it. Shunting is reasonable, but nowhere near as good as a marconi rig. Early days on the learning curve, but the build method is sorted, which is why I built it. Marshalls trip is from the end of January, they reckon there will be over 100 built.

    I gave it to a first year Uni student. In a couple of weeks we are sailing it to Brisbane where he will do the painting and add all the finishing touches. Should be able to get you a sail when he is finished.
    Not finished, and no more pictures. The builder is very thorough, but also has a bunch of other interests.

    Hope you get better quick.

    Glad you like the EX40. First one starts in Spain 'soon'.
    See attached for the E25 materials.
    Costs are not just about good or bad ply. Vinylester is cheaper than epoxy, polyester is less than both. Unlike crappy ply, all will do a reasonable job. There are also different grades of foam.
    We are now sourcing materials from China (thanks Guzzi). Mostly less than half the local price.
    The base laminate on the EX40 is 400, it is beefed up where required, which is easy to do with Infusion. Glass costs about $3 per kg, infusion epoxy $10 and foam about $20 per sq m, all of which are pretty small beer. As you say, time is money, and that is where the difference is made. I have done a fair bit of glassing in my time and take all the short cuts I can, but building the mini cargo ferry took a lot longer in ply than it would have in Intelligent Infusion. And most of it was sticky, fiddly or dusty. Crazy when the end result is heavier and needs a lot more looking after than the foam version.

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