OUTRAGE! Ady Gil (Earthrace) trimaran rammed and sunk by whalers!

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  1. apex1

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    There is no way parsing rules! International law at sea is a clear one.

    The attempt to blind a seaman by laser light is a first case attempt towards disabling a registered ships crew. Criminal, and a first case lawsuit in any of the involved nations.
    In ALL undersignign nations a attempt of murder.
    The attempt to disengage the rudder or propulsion of a registered seagoing vessel is piracy! Absolutely no doubt about that.
    In ALL undersignign nations a attempt of murder.
    Ramming a registered vessel at sea is piracy, no matter which attempt.
    In ALL undersignign nations a attempt of murder.

    All written in internationally agreed contracts.

    The fact, that the international community is not able to stop Japan from whaling has absolutely nothing to do with law at sea!

    As much as I personally would like to avoid the idioty of hunting whales, it is a fact, that Japan has the right to do what they (unfortunately) do.

    Sea shepard is looking for PR, for money. The fact that they bought such vessel is already the proof "in the pudding". Any decent boat would have done, towing ropes in whalers props. No, they need something effective!

    Like Green piss. The best they ever had, was the sinking of their boat by French marines. The very best was the death of a innocent man!

    Wake up, folks,

    they **** you while you are standing right there.
     
  2. liki
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    liki Senior Member

    After watching the videos many times carefully I came to the conclusions, that:

    a) AG is deliberately awaiting the approaching whaler ready to intercept it. Perhaps trying to disable it by throwing something just in front of it or just "playing chicken"

    b) Whaler makes a turn to starboard, deliberately to give AG "a wash" or maybe just caused by the sea state, who knows. Aboard AG the change is not noticed - This is very easy to miss from AG's point of view.

    While the whaler now approaches on close to collision course, AG suddenly accelerates and the collision is unavoidable.
     
  3. sabahcat
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    Seems they helped the whales plenty when they sank half the spanish] and the icelandic whaling fleet

    ouch, uninsured boat and repairs, thats gotta hurt, but the whales are happy

    More happy whales

    more whalers out of action = more whales saved

    Fantastic even more whales saved from slaughter

    Whoo Hoo

    Much more of their good work here

    http://www.seashepherd.org/whales/sea-shepherd-history.html

    If Govt. would accept responsibility and enforce the laws, these sort of actions would not be required.

    They have shooters in Africa protecting the elephant by killing the poacher, at least Sea Shepherd are not taking lives......same cant be said for the whalers.
     
  4. pacificproa
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    pacificproa Junior Member

    I watched this video a dozen times now.
    That ship was turning hard to starboard not to port as reported.
    They were clearly trying to run it down. and did!
    Even the watercannons show their bad intent.
     
  5. Frosty

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    Whales accidentally swim ashore and die every day every where.

    But you guys for the whales are just not getting it--you don't do it this way.
     
  6. oldsailor7
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    oldsailor7 Senior Member

    BUT NOT 900 WHALES AT A TIME
    What other way is there if the Govts and Authorities wont do it because of their vested interests and other unstated agendas. :mad:
     
  7. pacificproa
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    pacificproa Junior Member

    Frosty whats's your way then of stopping the illegal killing of whales?
    You must know some thing no one else does.
     
  8. balsaboatmodels
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    balsaboatmodels Junior Member

    Those comments about Maru not answering distress call - this is something apparently left out of those reports : http://www.sphere.com/nation/article/anti-whaling-boat-cut-in-half-by-japanese-security-vessel-group-says/19304949?icid=main|main|dl1|link5|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sphere.com%2Fnation%2Farticle%2Fanti-whaling-boat-cut-in-half-by-japanese-security-vessel-group-says%2F19304949

    That's interesting
    Given the grammar, the "Neighboring vessels" are not the "Japanese ships" yes? no?
    Who else was down there?
     
  9. Frosty

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    I don't know, I don't know how to stop children starving, I don't know how to stop volcanos or tsunamis either sorry.

    I know that throwing the law out of the window will only help the Japanese.

    Look what a cock up this is now, the Japs arent looking to bad anymore are they thanks to Green peace.
     
  10. Frosty

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    What ever you say Apex what ever you say. I used to have a wife like you, black was white and white was black.
     
  11. balsaboatmodels
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    balsaboatmodels Junior Member

    I'd say SSCS's Ady Gil's actions fit the United Nations' definition of piracy like a glove:
    http://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part7.htm

     
  12. pacificproa
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    this sounds like a joke.
    everything is ok as long as you forget, the illegal killing of whales!!!

    Killing of whales for a profit!!! the Japanese sell the meat!! is illegal!!!

    Which part do some members of this thread not understand?

    Paul Watson is merely upholding international treaties!
    He and his crew are risking there lives to uphold the law.

    That the only thing which works with the Japanese is hard direct action, is not his fault.

    The Australian government can stop this at any time by sending a warship down there, and uphold the law, Paul has actually asked for that in the past.
    At least he can go home then.
     
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  13. mark775

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    "More happy whales" - Sir, it is a whale. Sanctimony does not make it human. Anyone with leather shoes or has eaten 'roo or beef has no high ground from which to tell the Japanese what they can eat.
    If the whale were a blue or beaked whale (Ziphiidae), even a bowhead (threatened), or some endangered whale I'm not thinking of now, at least you would have somewhere to stand. The whales being hunted (researched) are almost entirely minke, cattle of the ocean, a few fins, a few humpbacks. The "science" of marine mammals is dubious. There are deliberate lies about numbers being propagated by the biologists responsible for reporting health of the stocks. One example; Can't remember the year, three years ago maybe, they reported 170 humpback whales in Cook Inlet (my backyard). That year was an exceptionally large capelin bloom at Point Adams (17 year dearth because of the humbacks last time) and lo and behold! - if one could count 'em all, he'd see 500 surfacing at any one time. Now they are trying to make all shorelines of the inlet "critical habitat" to protect the beluga - even tho there are five times more now than the 400 they thought a few years ago. I conversed with authority Richard Merrick as we watched orca stalking two-year-old sea lion pups west of Unimak Pass. I asked him of the numbers taken by orca. His response - his science? "I don't know. Not even enough to include in the data." I'm telling ya', this is the way these people do business - make an hypothesis and force the data to match.
    If you feel that because whales are big, or have a big brain (dedicated to echo-location, BTW - not "If I had hands, I'd save the planet", nor "9 x 7 = 63", nor even - get this, "I exist") that they should be left alone, so be it. Continue your battle to make whales off-limits as food. I think it's silly but most have set ideas on this and polarized, at that. How you feel about a whale personally, has no bearing on this incident, whatsoever.
    Personally, I've always thot they were kinda cool and left them alone. I would do anything to get some of the natives that are permitted a few threatened bowheads every year to come here and take abundant humpbacks instead. A humback eats (and poops) many tons daily. I know that they leave an unhealthy veritible desert when dinner is over. A little thinning may help the stocks stay at a healthy, sustainable level rather than the boom/starvation pattern that is the best nature can manage. There is just more emotion than sense concerning these critters - with me, too!. I will now seek, and eat, whale - just because of this.
     
  14. Landlubber
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    Landlubber Senior Member

    Bon appetite!
     

  15. Red Tide
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    Red Tide Junior Member

    I can understand the anger. Maybe it's only a numbers game between fishing and whaling.

    But I have a really hard time watching the whaling operation.

     
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