Outboards 2009 - HP, Weight, Make Comparison

Discussion in 'Outboards' started by rwatson, Sep 19, 2009.

  1. mwatts
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    mwatts Martin

    Ok thanks. Good to know.

    What is Selva then?
     
  2. rwatson
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    Thanks - some indicative pricing would also be welcome. Why would anyone buy the 60 hp for example ?
     
  3. Fanie
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    Because it's the closest to a decent motor you can afford :D

    Lets face it, outboards have become really expensive.
     
  4. rwatson
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    why would the 60 be much cheaper than the 70 when they are basically the same motor ?

    Probably why they arnnt on the range in Australia

    Thats why I asked for prices.
     
  5. Wynand N
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    Wynand N Retired Steelboatbuilder

    The 60hp Tohatsu is not on our importers list anymore after checking yesterday and wont be imported again. The 50hp & 70hp units are and the price difference here are also small, although they are different motors. My retail prices for them are as follows in ZAR.

    50hp = ZAR47500
    70hp = ZAR53750

    The difference is about Aussie$ 960
     
  6. rwatson
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    Bugger - I had the cheque in my hand ready to post. I bet the 140 2s is unavailable to.

    Its as I thought - the 60 was the same motor - and a waste of catalogue space.

    A thousand dollars is about the right price difference between models.

    As BOAT = "Bring Over Another Thousand"
     
  7. Wynand N
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    Wynand N Retired Steelboatbuilder

    told you before the 140 2s is a hot number here...I have stock and the importers have ample. The reason for this engine selling like hot cakes is the fact that is cheap and a lot of bang for money. Its direct competitor is the Yamaha 130hp and 150hp that sells for 40% and 58% more respectively here locally and the Tohatsu has all the Yam features and more - possibly the better engine as well.
    That said, some engines in this brand are hard to get by due to world demand and to name but two - 2,5hp and the 25hp 2s are rare - my importers can only have an assignment of these coming in February due to factory production deliveries:(
     
  8. powerabout
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    Could you add the BRP engines as they are all 2 strokes from 25 and up.
    I would be interested to see how much lighter they are?
    Thanks
     
  9. rwatson
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    Never heard of BRP.

    Have they got a web site with specs ?

    OK, You mean Bombadier Recreational Products - for out boards that = Evinrude, I have heard of them

    I hope their motors are better than their web-sites, nothing works. If you dig out the weight, model and HP from somewhere, I ma happy to stick it on the graph
     
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  10. powerabout
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    Works for me I used the Ozzy one
    http://www.evinrude.com/en-AU/
    you need to load a pdf for each engine
    here's one 60hp = 109kg 20" tnt
    You might want to add cc and cylinders to help correct the data as one manufacturere might be at the hp top end of an engine range while another may have the largest cc and kg as it is the bottom end of the model design range.
    You also need to look at prop diameter and gear ratio to also compare what will happen in the real world between 2 engines of the same horsepower.
    So one will make a light boat go fast and the other will pull more skiers out.
    Comparing horsepower of outboards is not as good a measure than if you were talking diesels etc due to the above especially in the mid range.
    Unfortunately its the only real measure you have as a consumer.

    Nice work
    Regards
     
  11. fastpowerboats
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  12. rwatson
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  14. Wayne Grabow
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    Wayne Grabow Senior Member

    I am currently shopping for an outboard in the 40-60 hp range and have collected some figures from manufacturers sites. Suzuki has a new 60 hp, 941 cc, which weighs 229 lb., about 104 kg. That is lighter than many competitors 60 hp models including the 2 cycle Evinrude.

    Right now I am favoring buying the 40 hp Mercury 4s, but am still looking. I appreciate this topic and discussion.
     

  15. Easy Rider
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    Wayne,
    Just looked at the new Suzuki. It is indeed completely new. I have the old DF60 .. 1300cc and much heaver. It's a magic engine but I'm sure the new one is better in many ways. I remember the 4 valve motorcycles were smoother and had a much wider power band. The same engine had more low end AND high end power. Engines keep getting better, more expensive and more complicated. Have you looked at the Tohatsu/Nissan LPDI 3cyl 2 strokes?

    Easy Rider
     
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