Opinion on New Design

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by James_walker, Dec 21, 2010.

  1. James_walker
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    James_walker Junior Member

    Hi all,

    I have just designed this power boat and am looking at putting it into production. It is designed to be a weekend/day trip stylish sports boat or a tender/support boat for a superyacht.

    Can I have your thoughts on the design and whether it would be successful.

    Thanks.
     

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  2. Pierre R
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    I can offer no thoughts on the design as there is insufficient data. All I can offer is an opinion on style. The style is certainly different but I am not sure how practical it is.
     
  3. bulk-head
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    bulk-head Junior Member

    Certainly is attractive as a sport boat.

    As far as a Mega tender..No. MegaYacht tenders must have the ability to board passengers side too or bow too. The best are be a bit " boxy" and have big impact absorbing fendering built into the design aesthetics. Megayacht tenders should also be as light as possible and short for their beam to allow storage and handling. Also remember rain and sun protection for a MegaTender.
     

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  4. bulk-head
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    I only view it from the practical side... Many times customers purchase whatever their fantasy is. Im sure your design could fulfill a fantasy . Would be nice if a designer used the wyliecat tender, carbon fiber, ultralight displacement, water ballasted twin sponsoon hull form approach on a 25 to 30 foot yacht tender powered by a high density Steyr diesel electric.

    http://www.wyliecat.com/models/gallery/18/wylieskiff_brochure.pdf
     
  5. bulk-head
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    bulk-head Junior Member

    Also consider that since your design is so big it will be towed. MegaTenders take huge abuse..particularly saltwater spray damage, when towed. You might incorporate a canvas covered cockpit design and any other detail such as self bailing cockpit, appropriate to improve tow resilience.
     
  6. Alik
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    Seems a lot of space wasted at stern?

    As a tender, boarding into the boat will not be easy. Need boarding deck area and handrails.
     
  7. bulk-head
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    Also when designing a tender consider how hard it is to find a suitable drop off, pickup location during high Mediterranean season. Harbours are so full that Mega tenders have a hard time. This summer ,with my Rib I had to "rescue" the guests of a Mega Yacht, trapped ashore, in the port of Hvar. The Mega yacht had a...Hinckley jet type tender , and there was no space for the tender to come in. I shuffled them via my rib to their hinckley jet tender.
    More than once Ive had mega tenders raft alongside me and use this yacht as a boarding platform because space was to tight on the dock. .

    A heavily fendered, moderate bean, mega tender that can squeeze thru, push aside with bow thruster , the moored stern too yachts and off load over the bow is very desirable.

    A mega tender that has the ability to discharge guests alongside in commercial ports...with 2 meter high seawalls.. is also valuable. Some kind of elegant 3 or 4 step ladder boarding , handrail , device to allow old folks easy access. .

    Both bow and stern thrusters save much time in that the Megatender can be thrustered alongside and not need docklines for boarding. A tender may make ten or 15 trips ashore each day... wet docklines and grubbly fenders wrapped around guests heads is bad news.
     
  8. gonzo
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    It seems hard to board, doesn't have lift points and as a tender very little passenger capacity. With a cox and a deckhand it may carry three people if they don't mind squeezing together.
     
  9. Stumble
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    As mentioned this is working from limited information, but the boat also seems to lack any access to the bow. This from a tender standpoint is an absolute necessity to make docking alongside possible. In addition a mega-yacht tender should have as much room as possible to carry the guest ashore, preferably in one trip, though two could be acceptable depending on the size of the vessel. This boat has traded passenger room for a 'pretty' stairway which would require multiple trips for almost any yacht, let alone a mega-yacht.

    For day trips/weekenders it might be an acceptable vessel, but I think most owners would rather have a sun platform than the transom layout, and I wonder about the sleeping acomodations. It looks like you have not much more than a small cuddy cabin.


    In short I can't envision this vessel performing any task I could envision optimally. It seems that the deck design has eliminate a tremendous amount of usefull space for little or no gain. A trade off I couldn't imagine taking for any vesssel.


    That being said I would be interested in the designers justification for the design. It might be that you have thought of something we missed.
     
  10. Alik
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    100% agree. In my experience, this stairway aft does not work on seaway. Also where is engine hatch and how to use it in the sea?
    Seems we deal with pretty makeover with lack of practical features.
     
  11. couch
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    couch Junior Member

    Find out what the market wants & needs and most importantly - how much it its willing to pay and how often! Once you have market info, then, and only then should / can you consider / evaluate merit of going into production.
     

  12. cthippo
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    It's very nice looking, and no more impractical than most of the cuddy cabin boats out there. Perhaps not right for a tender, but then the number of people who buy speedboats vs. the number of people who are in the market for a mega-tender is significant. That said, if you can get someone with a mega-yacht to buy one, or even rent such a yacht for a day for a photo shoot I can see that being a great marketing tool.

    I think I would also offer an optional faux wood hull.
     
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