Ok I don't own it

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  1. troy2000
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    troy2000 Senior Member

    Nothing wrong with ice cream. I liked the boat....:)
     
  2. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    ya know
    I been thinking of that

    Pat Atkins is a pleasure to deal with and having several sets of Atkins plans at this point I know I could get it done even with the sparse instructions. I'd have to keep it true to form or it just wouldn't be an Atkins though. Hmmmmm. ya its sooooo tempting to picture this with the cabin roof extending all the way back

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    oh well
    the search begins again
     
  3. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    hey Jeff is there any way to change the tittle of this thread to "OK I don't own it"
     
  4. Landlubber
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    ...Boston, it wil still be an Atkins if you move the cabin top aft.....sounds like a good idea to me, here we have to hide from the sun (or get cooked)....
     
  5. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    ya you gotta be careful though cause the purists get kinda touchy when you make any significant change

    extending the cabin roof all the way back like some of the commuter yachts seems like a great idea to me though, land it makes all that area aft sooooooo much more usable, specially in the pacific northwest
     
  6. Brian@BNE
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    One day you will want to sell it, so keep the Atkins purists happy and have a bigger pool of potential buyers by NOT changing it.

    But, you could always design a detachable roof extension for use in winter. That way you have the best of both worlds.
     
  7. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    bingo

    which is something else I've been thinking about
     
  8. troy2000
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    I think Boston should build a boat for himself, not for the next owner. He'll take a beating when he sells regardless, and meanwhile he might as well have what he wants.

    I have no experience with that sort of boat, and not much with the sort of weather he wants to take it into. But it seems to me the potential problem with a detachable cover in winter weather is that it detaches....
     
  9. Easy Rider
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    I agree Troy,
    I'd raise the pilothouse about 18", keep the "aft cabin" at original pilothouse level and enjoy all that room around the engine. An extended stern (not too much) could have merit also.
     
  10. cthippo
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  11. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    thanks and yah
    I've seen both but thanks for making sure

    the Express is kinda pricey at 50K and frankly there are better deals out there in that price range, that and the boat isn't really a live aboard.

    the speedway is in bad shape and it has GRP over Fir ( most likely Douglas ) decks which is always an issue. Checking based on being on the hard way to long has rendered the boat in need of extensive repairs far exceeding the value of the craft.

    There is a fine line between four things when considering an antique of this nature
    the intrinsic value of the boat in pristine condition
    the cost of bringing the boat up to pristine condition
    the sale price of the vessel
    the ability of the vessel to accommodate both passengers and crew for extended periods of time in approximate comfort of a modern vessel of similar length and cost.

    while greatly appreciate your pointing out both these boats I'm afraid neither is able to meet the required cost VS benefits

    please keep the ideas coming though as I am definitely on the look out and surely cant keep track of all the oldies coming up day to day

    I'm kinda counting on you folks to present your finds so thanks

    while I may have seen some of these picks before I am always thankful that you folks send them my way

    cheers
    B
     
  12. Vulkyn
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    I do believe you are very passionate about the boat you are looking for and very specific as well.
    Would an oldie newly built boat still tickle your fancy? or is must it be an antique ?

    Just asking cause i imagine the hassle of bringing one back to pristine condition would require a lot of effort so might as well build it .. (i think !)

    Good luck Boston, sorry i can not help any further have no experience or ever seen such looking boats !!
     
  13. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    a good replica would be ideal.

    the initial plan was to build a modern "look alike" of either this old Elco 57 ( which is for sale by the way at ~$250,000 and challenges my insistence on remaining debt free )

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    or this one ( a Consolidated 46' )

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    which is not for sale
    neither of which is well suited for the inside passage cruising which is my preferred area of travel

    conditions there are
    semi protected waters but with potential to get ugly fast, large tidal surges with fast currents and spectacular scenery.
    Winds light but cold and predominantly moving north to south down the passage with rain and fog being common.
    Debris in the water is also common and although having good reserve power is essential a more moderate speed ( say 8~10 knots ) would be advisable. Ports of call are not always within a 12 hour cruise range and so anchoring out is a must as is the ability to get some sleep "on the hook".

    Earlier my financial condition deteriorated in the poor economy ( I blame no one but myself by the way ) and it became pretty obvious given the state of things that the biggest "bang for my buck" so to speak would be to buy a boat of similar style and restore it using primarily sweat equity. My first foray into that plan ended in lawyers and filing a complaint with an attorney general against what could only be described as a deceitful broker who, after I had signed papers and sent a check, sold "my" boat to someone else. Nice move eh. Left me feeling a little gun shy of brokers by the way.

    So now I am back to looking for a restorable oldie. However my financial condition has improved somewhat and so I am also considering a small building project that might satisfy my itch until I can locate either just the right antique boat or funds to build a descent replica.

    I've purchased a few blue prints of antique boats at this point but am leaning towards this on to begin this winter assuming my latest business venture goes well

    oh ignore the canopy design as I would like to change that a bit

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    I want the canopy to be more of a pop up hard top from the just behind the pilot station aft so that the chances of getting swamped by a wave can be reduced in bad weather. and a soft top convertible forward so I can enjoy nice weather when I get the chance ( but with a hard top option kinda like the old T top Corvettes had )

    ends up looking kinda like this with the hard top down

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    some of the runabouts are more seaworthy than others so I might need to refine the search a bit before I actually chose one that meets all the requirements of the inside passage area. The one in the drawing is supposed to be of a "husky" design and posses "exceptionally seaworthy qualities" but I have my doubts

    anyway thanks for all the suggestions folks
    I'm still looking for more of a live aboard but this runabout might just keep me amused for a while and get me on the water while I continue the search.
    B

    oh
    the old Chris Craft runabout is a 1932 Chris-Craft 27' 309 Custom Triple Cockpit Runabout - Sugar Lady
     
  14. MatthewDS
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    I wouldn't say that. There are lots of boats from that era in Southeast Alaska. The biggest problem is keeping up with the maintenance on a wooden boat of that age. The constant rain will make it very difficult to keep up on your brightwork, not to mention all of the other wood. Most of these ladies look pretty tired, like this one in Ketchikan:

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  15. MatthewDS
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    And another classic in Juneau. There is nothing (seaworthiness-wise) wrong with these boats in SE Alaska, however, the weather makes maintenance difficult.
     

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